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		By: Maria Wirth		</title>
		<link>http://mariawirth.com/an-interesting-debate-on-x-about-sri-krishna-with-indian-and-foreign-hindus/#comment-18899</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 04:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://mariawirth.com/an-interesting-debate-on-x-about-sri-krishna-with-indian-and-foreign-hindus/#comment-18897&quot;&gt;Mani&lt;/a&gt;.

yes, your last sentence is right. 
btw, even the Wright brothers may have had inputs from India. Shivkar Bapuji Talpade flew already in 1895 a remote controlled flying machine higher and longer than the Wright brothers. Talpade didn&#039;t get funds for further experiments, the British ridiculed him, put him into prison and may have used his blueprints. Praveen Mohan has a video on him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://mariawirth.com/an-interesting-debate-on-x-about-sri-krishna-with-indian-and-foreign-hindus/#comment-18897">Mani</a>.</p>
<p>yes, your last sentence is right.<br />
btw, even the Wright brothers may have had inputs from India. Shivkar Bapuji Talpade flew already in 1895 a remote controlled flying machine higher and longer than the Wright brothers. Talpade didn&#8217;t get funds for further experiments, the British ridiculed him, put him into prison and may have used his blueprints. Praveen Mohan has a video on him.</p>
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		By: Mani		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 03:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ingo Diga says : &quot;The parable about the ocean isn’t entirely appropriate in my opinion, since there’s no path one can take to see the ocean of milk, the Brahman.&quot; 

The ocean example is more appropriate. Like the Ocean, HE is pervasive everywhere.. 
No path ??? There are many paths.. One path is Krishna..! Submit to himself, see him everywhere in what you do.

One path is getting initiated into Raja Yoga. Chant HIS name - in memory, always... Slowly, you will realise HIM.

Krishna is an Avatar, not a story by Puranic authors.  

If one wants to see, Krishna as BRAHMAN, it is fine, go ahead and do that way. 
Why Krishna for that matter?  See yourself in the MIRROR and tune your focus there - the innerself.  
After all, he is EVERYWHERE and IS IN YOU...! 

HE is everywhere and some (like ISKCON) say it is ONLY KRISHNA, fine too. 
Krishna is INDIAN or NOT...
Though HE is EVERYWHERE, HE as KRISHNA was REALISED in INDIA only.
Like, Wright brothers invented FLIGHT in USA and USA is given CREDIT for that.. 
Krishna in HUMAN FORM is INDIAN and was REALISED in other parts of the WORLD....

May be, the thought of INDIAN and INDIA being contributing for EVERY GOOD of the WORLD is disturbing for some..?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ingo Diga says : &#8220;The parable about the ocean isn’t entirely appropriate in my opinion, since there’s no path one can take to see the ocean of milk, the Brahman.&#8221; </p>
<p>The ocean example is more appropriate. Like the Ocean, HE is pervasive everywhere..<br />
No path ??? There are many paths.. One path is Krishna..! Submit to himself, see him everywhere in what you do.</p>
<p>One path is getting initiated into Raja Yoga. Chant HIS name &#8211; in memory, always&#8230; Slowly, you will realise HIM.</p>
<p>Krishna is an Avatar, not a story by Puranic authors.  </p>
<p>If one wants to see, Krishna as BRAHMAN, it is fine, go ahead and do that way.<br />
Why Krishna for that matter?  See yourself in the MIRROR and tune your focus there &#8211; the innerself.<br />
After all, he is EVERYWHERE and IS IN YOU&#8230;! </p>
<p>HE is everywhere and some (like ISKCON) say it is ONLY KRISHNA, fine too.<br />
Krishna is INDIAN or NOT&#8230;<br />
Though HE is EVERYWHERE, HE as KRISHNA was REALISED in INDIA only.<br />
Like, Wright brothers invented FLIGHT in USA and USA is given CREDIT for that..<br />
Krishna in HUMAN FORM is INDIAN and was REALISED in other parts of the WORLD&#8230;.</p>
<p>May be, the thought of INDIAN and INDIA being contributing for EVERY GOOD of the WORLD is disturbing for some..?</p>
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		By: Prashanth KP		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2025 05:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent and equally simple to understand for those who don’t or for those who obstinately debate otherwise. In Hinduism, we believe in avatars and Shri Krishna is one of the Avatars of Maha Vishnu. An Avatar is the essence or embodiment of a specified quality, a manifestation emerging during the vast expanse called **Time** — again divided into different Yugas according to Hindu theology namely Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dwapara Yuga, Kali Yuga (which we live in) and the expected Kalki Yuga. According to Hinduism, Shri Krishna was the 8th Avatar, the human manifestation of Maha Vishnu and with his death marks the end of Dwapara Yuga and the advent of Kali Yuga. There is no harm in claiming ownership on Maha Vishnu as he is the *all pervading* . But Shri Krishna is a human with godly traits, born to human parents, in a place called Mathura in the then India which was called **Bharatvarsha**. This remains a undisputed fact and has been authenticated by actual scientific studies into the life of Shri Krishna. It is concluded that he was born around 3300 BCE in Dwaraka and lived for about 125 years, 08 months and 07 days in 3102 BCE. Once again, I thank Maria Writh for her valuable inputs on the subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent and equally simple to understand for those who don’t or for those who obstinately debate otherwise. In Hinduism, we believe in avatars and Shri Krishna is one of the Avatars of Maha Vishnu. An Avatar is the essence or embodiment of a specified quality, a manifestation emerging during the vast expanse called **Time** — again divided into different Yugas according to Hindu theology namely Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dwapara Yuga, Kali Yuga (which we live in) and the expected Kalki Yuga. According to Hinduism, Shri Krishna was the 8th Avatar, the human manifestation of Maha Vishnu and with his death marks the end of Dwapara Yuga and the advent of Kali Yuga. There is no harm in claiming ownership on Maha Vishnu as he is the *all pervading* . But Shri Krishna is a human with godly traits, born to human parents, in a place called Mathura in the then India which was called **Bharatvarsha**. This remains a undisputed fact and has been authenticated by actual scientific studies into the life of Shri Krishna. It is concluded that he was born around 3300 BCE in Dwaraka and lived for about 125 years, 08 months and 07 days in 3102 BCE. Once again, I thank Maria Writh for her valuable inputs on the subject.</p>
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		By: Ingo Diga		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2025 11:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But other religions or teachings say something very similar. In the beginning, you have to believe and follow God&#039;s rules or commandments. Pray to him. Then God will reveal himself to you, will speak to you, work on you, etc., so that you won&#039;t need faith anymore ... This is then confirmed by the majority of other believers, who may all say that they even have a complete relationship with God...There&#039;s no room for doubt.
The parable about the ocean isn&#039;t entirely appropriate in my opinion, since there&#039;s no path one can take to see the ocean of milk, the Brahman. Even though that&#039;s often claimed and believed... Blind or not. 
Who among us has really seen it?
It&#039;s pure faith on both sides. It can&#039;t be otherwise. Many believe they know, truth or God, on both sides.
Can&#039;t judge whether that&#039;s good or bad. It&#039;s part of it, somehow. Otherwise, religion inklusive what we call today Hinduism wouldn&#039;t work, I&#039;m afraid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But other religions or teachings say something very similar. In the beginning, you have to believe and follow God&#8217;s rules or commandments. Pray to him. Then God will reveal himself to you, will speak to you, work on you, etc., so that you won&#8217;t need faith anymore &#8230; This is then confirmed by the majority of other believers, who may all say that they even have a complete relationship with God&#8230;There&#8217;s no room for doubt.<br />
The parable about the ocean isn&#8217;t entirely appropriate in my opinion, since there&#8217;s no path one can take to see the ocean of milk, the Brahman. Even though that&#8217;s often claimed and believed&#8230; Blind or not.<br />
Who among us has really seen it?<br />
It&#8217;s pure faith on both sides. It can&#8217;t be otherwise. Many believe they know, truth or God, on both sides.<br />
Can&#8217;t judge whether that&#8217;s good or bad. It&#8217;s part of it, somehow. Otherwise, religion inklusive what we call today Hinduism wouldn&#8217;t work, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
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		By: Maria Wirth		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2025 08:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://mariawirth.com/an-interesting-debate-on-x-about-sri-krishna-with-indian-and-foreign-hindus/#comment-18747&quot;&gt;Ingo Diga&lt;/a&gt;.

it requires to follow the rules of trying to go beyond thoughts. the initial &#039;blind faith&#039; is experiential. like you trust someone who has seen the ocean and tells you where you need to go to reach the ocean.
intellectually one can go quite far in supporting it (unlike the monotheistic religions)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://mariawirth.com/an-interesting-debate-on-x-about-sri-krishna-with-indian-and-foreign-hindus/#comment-18747">Ingo Diga</a>.</p>
<p>it requires to follow the rules of trying to go beyond thoughts. the initial &#8216;blind faith&#8217; is experiential. like you trust someone who has seen the ocean and tells you where you need to go to reach the ocean.<br />
intellectually one can go quite far in supporting it (unlike the monotheistic religions)</p>
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		By: Ingo Diga		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2025 07:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t &quot;Aham Brahmasmi&quot; or &quot;Tat tvam asi&quot; require blind faith? It is very important to understand that these are not universally valid, intellectual explanations or definitions of the Absolute, but rather individual spiritual expressions of higher realizations that manifest or appear in the Rishi&#039;s mind as part of realization or enlightenment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t &#8220;Aham Brahmasmi&#8221; or &#8220;Tat tvam asi&#8221; require blind faith? It is very important to understand that these are not universally valid, intellectual explanations or definitions of the Absolute, but rather individual spiritual expressions of higher realizations that manifest or appear in the Rishi&#8217;s mind as part of realization or enlightenment.</p>
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		By: CHANAKYAGAN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2025 06:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I AM HAPPY TO SEE YOUR ESSAY SO BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN  YOU ARE OUR GIFT AND IT IS THAT PARABRAHMAN WHO MADE YOU TO COME TO US  TO DEFEND US . WHENEVER DHARMA IS DOWN, SEOMEONE , SOMEHOW, WILL EMERGE FROM SOMEWHERE BY HIS GRANCE TO DEFEND US]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM HAPPY TO SEE YOUR ESSAY SO BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN  YOU ARE OUR GIFT AND IT IS THAT PARABRAHMAN WHO MADE YOU TO COME TO US  TO DEFEND US . WHENEVER DHARMA IS DOWN, SEOMEONE , SOMEHOW, WILL EMERGE FROM SOMEWHERE BY HIS GRANCE TO DEFEND US</p>
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		By: Vijai Mohini		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2025 06:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shri Krishna is manifestation of Maha Vishnu with a purpose.
Shri Krishna has a mother, a father, brother , sister and friends.
But MahaVishnu, AdiShiv,AdiShakti are unborn, timeless, Svayambhooo.
MahaVishnu, AdiShakti and AdiShiv are One and the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shri Krishna is manifestation of Maha Vishnu with a purpose.<br />
Shri Krishna has a mother, a father, brother , sister and friends.<br />
But MahaVishnu, AdiShiv,AdiShakti are unborn, timeless, Svayambhooo.<br />
MahaVishnu, AdiShakti and AdiShiv are One and the same.</p>
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		By: Maria Wirth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria Wirth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2025 13:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://mariawirth.com/an-interesting-debate-on-x-about-sri-krishna-with-indian-and-foreign-hindus/#comment-18738&quot;&gt;Mukundan&lt;/a&gt;.

do you agree with the Upanishadic &quot;Aham Brahmasmi&quot; or &quot;Tat tvam asi&quot;, means the absolute truth is nameless and formless out of which or in which this Maya plays out. this knowledge is experiential, whereas what you wrote, needs blind belief.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://mariawirth.com/an-interesting-debate-on-x-about-sri-krishna-with-indian-and-foreign-hindus/#comment-18738">Mukundan</a>.</p>
<p>do you agree with the Upanishadic &#8220;Aham Brahmasmi&#8221; or &#8220;Tat tvam asi&#8221;, means the absolute truth is nameless and formless out of which or in which this Maya plays out. this knowledge is experiential, whereas what you wrote, needs blind belief.</p>
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		By: Mukundan		</title>
		<link>http://mariawirth.com/an-interesting-debate-on-x-about-sri-krishna-with-indian-and-foreign-hindus/#comment-18738</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mukundan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2025 12:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sri Krishna is not an avatar of Vishnu. He is above Vishnu. The avatar stories are fabricated by puranic authors. Trimurti are devatas whereas Sri Krishna had transcended even the Deva stage, and attained the position of Ishwara in the 8th stage of Brahman realization.]]></description>
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