In a certain book about religion, either in a general way or probably specifically Christianity, is written the notable statement: THE SOURCE OF RELIGION IS THE SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE. Now you could dispute that, or argue that EXPERIENCE Of is different from or less valued than SPIRITUALITY itself. It is a common misperception that the West, or Christendom, is the contrary of spiritualism, that means materialist or so. That is utter nonsense, based firstly partially on its ‘materialist’ success, secondly on its social attempt to bring relief to the poor and sufferers in this world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_music?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan?wprov=sfla1 I wish that the attitude here ‘We Only’ is being questioned.

My main point was: Hinduism claims to consider the well-being of all creatures, yet Hindus fail to comply miserably in many instances. There are animal-friendly rules already in the Torah, but I argue that we in the West must take an extended view today, since husbandry has taken an industrial, anonymous, often exploiting form. Therefore, I am also member of quite some national animal- and nature-protecting organisations.

I have a lot of sympathy with vegetarism, but consider eating meat not so much an evil, IF the animal has had a good life and is slaughtered instantly (or painlessly or if it has died for a natural reason). That is possible now, and it was possible in our recent past. See the film DER SCHWARZE TANNER, and you see in the end how it used to be done.

Therefore, if we come to the rare opportunity to eat meat or not, we should follow that rule: if you don’t know the life circumstances past of that animal, don’t.

For an animal with a lower level of self-consciousness, death is not so much a problem, since one reason to continue living, the existence of a personal, knowledgable, ontological future, is just barely there. The next morning means: get up, eat, eat, …

I would rather prefer to be an European cow, feeding on fat grass never too little, and being killed instantly, than to lead the miserable life of many Indian cows and to croak in the end.

Esther Vilar has written a good essay with the title ‘Warum Vegetarismus Unsinn ist’ in the book ‘Der betörende Glanz der Dummheit’. Another point of view.

How do you solve the problem with the ageing, deadly sick animal?
I am convinced: euthanise at the optimum time.

your last sentence is highly arrogant and wrong. WHY does Peta not care about those 56 billions of animals that are every year cruelly slaughtered, mostly in the west?
meat consumption is low in India, but attempts are on to increase it… by whom? Christians for example. i asked a priest if they force converts to eat cow meat. he replied, we don’t force them, but of course they have to show they belong to us now…
yes, some donkeys, horses buffaloes may be overworked, so are human beings. Compare with the pain a cow or goat feels being brutally pushed into the slaughter house, knowing what is in store for her.
since you have a friend in Peta, i would greatly appreciate if you could convince her to take up this issue.
as long as they go out of their way to save a dog, but turn a blind eye to the millions of slaughtered animals, their compassion is hypocritical.

Sorry for my intervention here, it may not be the best context. At least, you have stated “They [the Hindus] see god in every live creature on earth.”

Unfortunately, I have just received an e-mail which challenges this assertion:

‘As a PETA member, you’re likely aware that among Ingrid’s [Newkirk] many notable accomplishments is the wonderful progress made for abused and neglected working animals in her childhood home of India.

I’ve had the privilege of seeing firsthand the impressive work that Animal Rahat—an organization that she founded—does for some of the most overworked animals in the world. From the sanctuary to the streets, every single day, its team is improving the lives of bullocks and other working animals.

The group also supplies veterinary and emergency care to animals who are often in urgent need, promotes lifesaving spay/neuter campaigns that are reducing the population of homeless dogs on crowded streets, works to make the streets of Delhi animal cart–free, spares the lives of thousands of bullocks and donkeys through its mechanization program in sugar factories and brick kilns, and so much more.

Animal Rahat’s community outreach work has taught many thousands of Indian schoolchildren about the importance of treating all living beings with kindness, even helping many of them and their families go vegan. Not only are they inspired by Animal Rahat to rescue animals and care more deeply for their animal companions, they also have a greater sense of what it means to treat all beings with the empathy and respect that they deserve.

Ingrid’s compassion and determination have inspired work that’s saving millions of animals from cruelty.’

Why must it always have to be a Westerner who does something against sufferings?

i sent you a mail

Excellent madam. One rice grain is enough to check whether it’s boiled or not. Need not check the entire bowl full of rice. We’ll articulated.