Again one of my answers on Quora collapsed. I replied to the above question 7 months ago. Now it was taken down. Here it is:
I will restrict my answer to the three religions with the most followers.
Hinduism (the term is used today to cover many different strands) is based on the Vedas. One could call the Vedas the most ancient, original ‘revelation’, because the Rishis are not the authors of the Vedas. Due to their Tapas (austerities), they ‘saw’ (Sanskrit: drishtih = see) the mantras in cosmic awareness through the veil that prevents ordinary eyes from seeing them.
The Vedas were the first to claim that there is one great Brahman (Supreme Being) as the base of this varied manifestation, in whom all is contained. Nothing exists apart from Brahman. Brahman is not personal. It is infinite, eternal, blissful awareness. Our Atman (Self or I) is one with it.
Ages later, only some 2000 years ago, Christianity was ‘founded’ and claimed, that God has ‘revealed’ the full truth only to Jesus Christ and it is contained in the Bible.
A few centuries later, Islam was ‘founded’ and claimed, that Allah has ‘revealed the full truth only to Prophet Mohamed and it is contained in the Quran.
Both religions have copied the concept of one Supreme Being, but distorted the original, Vedic view in an unacceptable way, which has led to terrible misery over the centuries.
The distortion is this: The Supreme wants all humans to accept the revelation through Jesus, respectively through Mohamed. Those who do not accept the only true religion (of which two exist…) will be damned for all eternity to hellfire by God/ Allah personally on Judgment Day.
For long, the Church was intertwined with the state and punished those who disagreed with the doctrine most cruelly through state laws. Even in Goa, the Inquisition was most brutal under the Portuguese. However, in the age of enlightenment (which coincides with the time when the Vedic knowledge reached Europe and influenced the elite there) the Church had to give up interfering with the now ‘secular’ state.
Ever since, it does not have the power to punish heretics any longer, and it has lost and is still losing many members, because they are now allowed to get out of the Church and many realised that a lot of the doctrine does not make sense.
Islam does not need intertwining with the state, because it is one with the state wherever Muslims are in the majority. So the brutal punishment of heretics still happens in our times. Under Sharia Law leaving Islam means death sentence, and Kafirs are called the worst of creatures in the Quran itself. The believers are exhorted to fight the unbelievers till the whole world is for Allah. No guessing that this is the cause for a lot of misery.
Amazingly, these two religions are allowed to preach those distortions under the right to religious freedom even today. Especially children are vulnerable and believe what adults tell them.
Compare this with the view of Hinduism that the Supreme permeates all. Whoever believes it – and it is even more than belief, because it can be experienced – will have inner strength, because he knows that Divinity is in him, and further he will be kind to others, because he knows that Divinity is also in them.
Clearly, Hinduism is on a higher level.
If only more Christians and Muslims would reflect whether, what they learnt in childhood can possibly be true.
I think it was Voltaire who said: God gave me intelligence. I think He wants me to use it…
For those who have time for 5000 words, this explains, why Hindu Dharma is higher than religion and even higher science
By Maria Wirth
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Brilliant observation once again. We need to realize our true worth before it is too late.
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I like it, you don’t mince your words and tell as it is, and because of this reason it was taken down. You aren’t allowed to say those things about other religions and that’s the way things are. Nice write up.
Sanatan Dharm, (Hindu Dharma) is science and is a way of life…..
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Very nicely put. I could not have said it better. More people should read your posts. Thanks once again for the clarity in your explanations.
Warm regards.
Thank you Maria. Always refreshing to read your views. I am just wondering you speak so much about the Vedas, yet you have not researched on the One Guru who gave the Vedas back to the world in its pure and original form. in the 1960s and 1970s, this Guru had the entire Vedas printed in a 1000 page book called Ved Bhagwan and at the age of 90 and in frail health, he travelled all over the world, US, Europe, Japan, Africa, Far East, to give the vedas to many institutions, libraries and temples. All told, 1000 Vedas were given away and He refused to accept a penny because He said Vedas can never be sold. He further said the Vedas are for all mankind, and not only Hindus. I don’t think your topic on Vedas will ever be complete till you write about this Amazing Guru, who was as brilliant as He was low-key…………..as much of a learned man as he was devotional……….Indian leaders from Nehru, to Shastri and many others would visit Him to seek His advice and He also performed a yagna during the 1965 war to help India win the war with the power of Ved Mantras. Good luck and trust you will look into this.
Yes but narendra modi’s views are different than yours on Sufism. He is more of a Gandhiwadi than a Godsewadi.
please give his name
Not because Hinduism is higher than all religions it is true!
Hindus reading an article like this might tend to sit back and feel good about themselves, that they are well established in spirituality and there is no need to make any effort in thinking critically.
It is true, if the truth is to be known at all, the Hindus stand a better chance of re-discovering it,s should they give the Vedas some serious attention as preached by Maharishi Swami Dayanand Saraswati.
“NA TASYA PRATIMAA ASTI YASYA NAAM MAHAVIDYASHAH.” Yajur Ved 32:3
He the Supreme, of infinite glory, has no likeness, weight or measurement.
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Why they are taking down your answer without assigning any reason?
I am concerned about the generosity. The Christians are cunning to include the principles and twist the Veda teachings as Christian teaching and use it for conversion.
It is time to teach Vedas to the local Hindus in Bharat/ India. Could you please send an electronic copy to the Hindu friends and myself at rathodjr@gmail.com
Most convincing and an eye opening ideal piece of writing covering science, spirituality and philosophy of life. Mankind should b familiar with HINDUDARSHAN. Many congratulations an great thanks to you Madam Maria for putting forth the truth.
Maria, the title „higher“ can be seen as problematic! Rather than this, if you title it as “Comaparitive analysis of different religions”? This reads as “neutral” and we do not place Hinduism “above” other religions!
This could be the reason why Quora has taken off! Google,Facebook, Twitter – all the following the same!
Grüße – Mayur
This is an excellent article and makes me feel so good to read that Vedic Dharma or Sanatan Dharma popularly known as Hinduism is on higher level as you have so simply explained.It makes me so happy and proud that I am a Hindu and at the same time it puts responsibility to promote, protect and follow its universal teachings and make children and adults to follow it in daily routine for the good of all .
That is why we chose it, being frank. :-). Despite this assertion not being politically correct, it is the sheer truth. Was it not superior for us for these and many other reasons, we would have remained where we were: in the fold of sheeps that avoid critical thinking. I wonder how can there be stil so many like that in the world….
Thanks Maria. Yes, you make me feel good by reading that what I have chosen is the most logical, humane and positive among the prevailing religious worldviews. Let each one be in their own stage of spiritual evolution, as long as they let us live too.
Outstanding and brilliant analysis.keep it up
Nicely explained Maria ji and that’s how you do naturally.
The question was about higher. I didn’t choose the title, just replied.
https://www.speakingtree.in/blog/10-wise-sayings-from-buddha-that-will-have-a-profound-effect-on-your-life. This old concept of ancient world keeps on MODIFYING through incarnation of Supreme power under the name Vishnu.. Buddha is the last incarnation known till this day.. it’s forecasting the whole world will adopt and follow doctrine of Bhudhism in near future after great massacre of humans themselves. So suggest you to go through what Buddha has in store.
they said “attribution needed”. what attribution? it’s my own answer, and was not published before anywhere.
the same argument they used when they took down my reply to Zakir Naik, even though i mentioned that i quote from my blog, and gave the link, too. that post had gone viral, in 17 hours 29k views on quora. then suddenly i got the message…
this ‘reason’ has the advatage for them that it clearly says something like, even if corrected, they won’t put the post up again…
please do share in your circle.
Please do not wish for this. if all people followed the tenets of their own religion ‘religously’, we would have huge number of jihadis and missionaries. maybe you don’t know that both these religions claim that their respective God wants all humans to follow what he has revealed in their respective book…
if your claim were true that the main tenet of all religions is be good and do good, why all this strife in the name of religion?
when i say Hinduism is higher (because it was in the question to which i answered) many Hindus feel uncomfortable with ‘higher’. but why? isn’t it higher? if one objects to ‘higher’, shouldn’t one at least first or equally object to “only true”? yet i don’t hear any objection regarding this baseless claim of the two dogmatic religions.
regards
Maria
For the reason you mention they should have rejected the question itself. If they have rejected Maria´s answer it might be just because it is TOO GOOD to be debunked, simply irrefutable, and irrefutably simple; because whatever she says here it is mere truth. So the easiest way to get rid of this PROOF of the “superiority” is to delete it or reject it in whatever way they do in Quora. (My two cents) I think it is as simple as that. Abrahamic followers have too much power in the web.
If only all people follow the tenets of their own religion and stop comparing and arguing which is first-born and which is better than the other, etc. , there will be peace and harmony among mankind. The main tenet of all religions is Be good and do good.
Maria, excellent piece. Most Hindus, even well read ones, are not aware about (what you have explained above is) the ultimate realization in Hinduism as a seeker, but stop short at intermediate stages of devotion. I am not trying to judge them. If any intermediate stage gives them the spiritual solace to stop seeking further who am I to question it? It is all the more greatness of Hinduism itself. Suffice to say that the religion is structured for every type of seeker from the easily satiated to the hard-to-please spiritual seeker.
Maria ji…. We (Sanatana Dharma) were not ‘higher’, we were second to none and are. If you ask me, only slender people compare and conflict with each others. Do we need to respond to barking street dogs?
Wow.wondeeful.Loved it.
In other words, the article only claims that Hinduism is higher than Christianity and Islam, which hardly qualifies as “all other religions”. More like “just Christianity and Islam with their various permutations and off-shoots”. Second, it wasn’t Vedic knowledge that reached Europe and was widely disseminated that triggered the Enlightenment period. Rather, it was the Fall of Constantinople to the Ottoman Turks, with the resulting exodus of many Byzantine scholars. They brought with them ancient works otherwise lost in Western Europe, the study of which led to the mentioned questioning of Church doctrine, etc.
A piece written with rare insight and diction. It is Hinduism that said: Jenahang na amritang shang, kimahang yena kuryam (Brihataranyak Upanishad). Mariah has found that sublime quest of life through her study of the Hindu scriptures, which even we Hindus do not do. Hinduism is the ultimate – one day the world will realise. I make obeisance to her illumined soul. Om Shanti: Om Shanti: Om Shanti
Maria, thank you for your unflinching commitment and refusal to be silenced. In another context, a friend reminded me of a quote by eminent jurist Nani Palkhiwalla — he compared India to a donkey carrying a sack of gold. And so, while contemplating the relative merit of Hinduism brings a sense of temporary satisfaction, it is quickly replaced by gloom and despair at how many Hindus know so little of it. And then there are those who identify as Hindu who actively belittle and undermine it. As I often say, the real enemies are not the carnivores without, but the rats within.
It is Hinduism that say: Ya devi sarvabhuteshu jatirupena samsthita. The universal mother energy is extant in all religions (Sri Sri Chandi). No other religion says it ie looking upon people of all religions as our brethren. The Hindus have been saying it from its hoary past, although orthodox Brahminism had made some suicidal aberrations. The three other religions of the world do not say it. Christianity and Islam are proselytizing and they have spread under the sun through the sword. On the other hand Buddhism is agnostic. Hence Hinduism is higher than all other religions. I once again make obeisance to Maria’s sagacious wisdom.
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“Do we need to respond to barking street dogs?”
We don’t if we are elephants. But what if we are mere humans fully vulnerable to attacks by dogs? Dogs don’t simply bark, they also bite! In the past, Hindus suffered immensely because they tried to avoid conflict. In recent past, Hindus were [more or less] wiped out in Indian Kashmir, let alone in Pakistan, again because we avoided conflict. Lately, Leftists and modern liberals have been a serious threat to Hindus because of their anti-theism and especially because they target our youth with their propaganda.
We are not elephants, balaji690! We need to protect ourselves and our children in every sphere of life. Not only that, we need to actively resist and oppose the anti-Hindu forces because if we don’t, they will never stop barking and biting.
Agreed accidental34….. All these are just barking dogs and barking dogs don’t usually bite. If they come to bite us, we need to defend us without any second thought.
I don’t understand why you don’t want to accept us as elephants. We are elephants in size; Lions in terms of daring; Jackals in terms of cleverness; Hippos in terms of dashing and finally, compassionate we are as best human beings in the World. We definitely respond fittingly to any such situation that which tests our patience with respect to our religion.
In Bhagavadgita, the practice of religion or the religion itself have been summed-up categorically in four stages. Jnanayoga is the first stage. On this stage a person acquires the knowledge of the inner self through study and contemplation and becomes aware of the importance of realizing his true self and achieving salvation.
Second stage is ‘Karma yoga’ or to discharge his responsibilities towards himself, his family and society by performing his obligatory duties in deference to dharma and as a sacrificial offering to God.
The third stage is Sanyasa yoga in which actions without desire and attachment, renouncing the sense of doer-ship, the fruit of actions is offered to God.
With these refinements in lower self or the outer consciousness, the fourth and the final stage of Bhakti yoga, or the stage of devotion is attained. In this stage, intense devotion, sense of oneness with Him and unconditional love for God, His will & His creation is experienced.
The basic element of Hinduism is ‘Oneness through knowledge’. No religious practice or concept can supersede this concept, especially those with admonishment.
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There are three words used by us 1. Devta/Devi 2. Bhagwan (God) 3. Braham ( the creater, पालनकर्ता, संहारक)
These three words have different meaning and different universal identity.
1. Devta : Anything living or nonliving which helps in survival of life , prosperity of human being is devta. देवता जो देता है। like Tulsi, Cow, earth, Fire,Water etc. And this concept helps in conservation of all living organisms and nonliving thing like water and air ( there are 33 crore devi /devta i.e. species of living organisms and nonliving things)
2. Any human being who is स्थितप्रज्य is Bhagwan/God. Whose बुद्धि/mind is still/स्थिर is God / bhagwan. e.g. Bhagwan shri Ram, Shri Krishan
3. ब्रह्म / the almighty is one who is in each and every part of Universe . वो सृष्टिकर्ता है, पालनकर्ता है, संहारक है। कल्याणकारी है । वो समस्त जगत का कारण स्वरूप है।
Really, so your telling me that my faith of Christianity which is not a religion. Not true christianity. Is not like Islam and Sharia law. Because of one period of darkness covering as light and calling themselves christans. Which they were not. Those were Catholics under the creation of Constantine. Who was a brutal murder of true Christians. But because christianity was growing so popular in Rome. He decided to mix paganism with christ teachings Making it void of all power and love and the spirit of christ. If you read the gospels, which obviously you haven’t. All through them Jesus condoms even hates the actions and deceptions of the so called higher arce of the priest and leader of the Jewish synagogues. He fought with them vigorously because of they used the word of law to oppress the people and raise themselves up.They were hypocrites , and evil. They hated Jesus and were jealous of his Deity. The Catholics lead the crusades but there was no mass killings as in Muslim and Islamic cultures and false religions. Catholicism was merely Constantine’s way of blending in with true Christianity. That he saw no way of defeating. Do you think after reading the scriptures of the bible, that Jesus would approve of slavery and the crusades. Are you kidding me. Real Christians although with flaws because they are forgiven not perfect. Ended slavery, and made the constitution of America,(a christian nation)based on the bible.Although America’s dark past, used the bible as Constantine and the Catholics did to justify slavery. It was always a thorn in the side of real christans. Who the Almighty used to convict true Christians like Abraham lincoln and so many others to abolish slavery, and moved a great man like Martin Luther King to began the Civil Rights Movement. We here in America based on the holy scriptures give more freedom to all other religions and beliefs. Based on christian and Judeo beliefs. Please do not compare true christianity, which the constitution was based on. To Islam. Which is still oppressive towards women and children and believes in Jihad, and war against anyone who defies it. A Christian can love a Muslim and a Hindu without persecution. As a matter of fact it is just the opposite. We are taught to pray for our enemies by Christ , and bless those who hate us, and despitefully use us. Does that sound like Islam or Sharia law. Because of christianity our women here in America are freer than in any other religion and country. People all over the world flock to America for its religious freedoms. Not only in America,but everywhere that true christianity is the main religion. The people are free to worship as they like and live in peace. So please don’t compare one time in Catholic history, which is nothing more than paganism.To true christianity. That brought about the end of that horrible period. Islam oppresses its peoples, true christianity frees its peoples. We believe in one true God,like they do. But that’s where our common ground ends.
I or any Hindu for that matter has any issue with anyone else practising their faith and what they believe in. In India all refugees from all faiths have been welcomed and even provided a ground to practice their faith freely. All our respects.
But there is another common ground among Abrahamic faiths, including all Christian denominations and Islam that poses a threat for Hindus and for everyone who is not themselves: exclusivity claims. Unless each and all of the Abrahamic faiths drops their exclusivity claim that theirs is the only truth and all the rest are mistaken, this is a seed for conflict even among them (history proves it), provided they feel a moral duty to CONVERT others. This point is exactly what we oppose and I would dare to say that all our defences of Hinduism or Sanatana Dharma are in reality DEFENSIVE, consequence of millenia of persecution, impositions and conversion from Christians of all denominations and Muslims towards whoever is not them. The history of Christianity as well as that of Islam, whether one likes it or not, is a history of destruction, finishing off of the cultures that they replace or try to: talking of Christians, the destruction starts towards the so-called pagans here in Europe, and continues with Native Americans, and Africa where Christianity planted the seed of conflict among them, till nowadays that still every innocent villager whom they deceive even with cheap tricks in India itself. This is a sheer fact that cannot be denied.
Something different, and I am not talking about that, is the plenty of Christians who truly live and let live others. We as Hindus heartily respect other´s faith. Our issue starts with others imposing themselves to us. Conversion has been, is, and will always be a DISRESPECT towards the culture one imposes their own beliefs. And both Christians and Muslims, in the core of their scriptures, have the duty to convert others. I see a difficult solution to all of this, unfortunately.
thank you, Maria. i thought i would reply to Wanda M. but now, when i checked i saw that you have done so already. You said just what i also felt like saying.
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Read your view & it has touched core of my heart as it is nothing but TRUTH . Kindly accept my NAMASKAR .
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This is something I couldn’t agree more. As a Hindu, i teach my children to have their own definition of divinity and that it exists on every other human being – irrespective of their religion – but maybe in a form that differs from us. It’s just that Hinduism teaches us the open mind to view and accept them with magnamity…
Hi Maria
I appreciate your deep understanding on this subject. May everyone benefit from this.
Hinduism is not a ‘religion’. It is Dharm.
No language in the wold has equivalent to Dharma.
Religion is bound by rituals and coustums. In religion there is no place for atheists.
Dharm is all inclusive. Even athiest is accepted. This Dharm is called SANATAN DHARM.
Madam, take a bow from all Hindus
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Hindus needn’t explain themselves to others, unless others ask for it; why? Because Hinduism doesn’t convert, and doesn’t need to.
Buddhism was before Hinduism you have altogether avoided mentioning it because of basic lack of knowledge on Indian Philosophy. Stupa has been found in Harappa during Archaeological Survey (Not Society) of India excavations more than 100 years ago, there has been punch marked tablets of the pipal tree under which Buddha got his enlightenment. Adi-Sankara got his teachings from Buddhist scriptures and he was known as a Neo-Buddhist
Swamiji? Maria doesn´t lack of basics of Indian knowledge, she simply doesn´t base her viewpoint on western sources which clearly try to undermine Hinduism by using the Buddhism prior in time ONLY as a tool. A tool USED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE NEITHER HINDUS NOR BUDDHISTS. People so respectable and knowledgeable as Sri Chandasekharendra Saraswati have amply proven the truth about Shri Adi Shankara as prior to Buddhists. Do not let yourself be deceived by vested interests and consequently please do not mistake others.
Sorry, I meant he has proven that Adi Shankara defeated these of course previous theories as a perspective fully based on the Vedas, despite many things in common. He did not base himself on Buddhists but in previous eternal knowledge and argued the points of Buddhists where they were disconnecting themselves from Vedas. So not neo-buddhist at all, as these western sources say trying to undermine Advaita Vedanta. I would just say the opposite: first was Sanatana Dharma and then Buddhists were born in that atmosphere. And then Adi Shankara defeated in arguments the points in which Buddhists were departing from Vedic sources.
Great insightful work. Well researched.
A masterpiece as usual…
Because if people were to wake up and think for themselves, then the worlds 2 biggest religions Christian and Islam will fall. People would know the truth, that is why these religion teaches fear, if you don’t follow it. As times goes on, human consciousness will expand, the world will change and the old ways of thinking won’t work.
I disagree. If all people can find that divine consciousness within themselves, they will find it in all beings..then we will have peace and harmony.
Christianity and Islam are alike because they believe in a god that is separate from them. A god who make rules and you must follow. Hinduism doesn’t even exist, but the way of life practiced by the yogis thousands of years before Christ. We believe that that divine consciousness you call god, is present within and in all of creation. We can become like a Christ, did he not say ‘my father and I are one’?
So true, one cannot convert, but practice such a way of life can actually help one become a better christian or a better Muslim.
I disagree. First of all Hinduism doesn’t exist. It is made up name. Dharma exist which is what people call Hinduism today. Existed way way before the Buddha.
I agreed with all your other comments fully. Yet please be careful with a term like “better” Christian or Muslim. Better human alright, but a good Christian or Muslim has the duty to convert you (Christian) or look down on you, subdue if not kill you (Muslim).
A ‘Better’ muslim or Christian to me is not the same as you or anyone may perceive it. I should have explained properly. If any Muslim or Christian were to practice a certain meditation, wholeheartedly. I guarantee you, they will not be the same Muslim or Christian. The same Scripture, they will understand differently, in a good way, hence I used the term better. I have seen it for myself and some are in my family. Love and blessings.
So True.
Really admiring work.
We believe in humanism
Thanks
Very beautifully summarised. I am a Hindu! My parents never forced me to be a Hindu. Whenever I questioned their beliefs or rituals they would try to explain it in a way they understood it. Often I was not convinced with their reasoning and I would claim I am an atheist, they would just smile and say: this is how we understand God, you are free to understand it in your own way.
But I am surprised that in Quora too there is censorship! I have seen so many more elaborate answers too on Quora!
simply great. You have put the things out in the public domain which is essential for them to understand.
Thats an amazing take on Hinduism. You should also read Bahgwat Geeta which talks about a man’s Dharama to his family colleagues and religion itself. It was a very good read
Dear Mr.Neo Hindu, you do know that you are supporting a religion which sanctions rape too. Maybe you should be happy with that too? I am an Indian Christian and I see Hinduism not part of my culture. India has gained nothing out of this racist and sexist ideology. Aren’t you ashamed of calling yourself a “Hindu” which was responsible for the degenerate status of women in India?
Why are you invoking Native Americans and Africans here? Silly ad-hominems!!
God is the same for all, men and women, Sudra and Brahmin. God is not cheap and racist.
Please convince me why you support widow burning aka. Sati.
Rig Veda X.18.7 : ” Let these women, whose husbands are worthy and are living, enter the house with ghee (applied) as corrylium ( to their eyes). Let these wives first step into the pyre, tearless without any affliction and well adorned.”
Brahma Purana.80.75 “It is the highest duty of the woman to immolate
herself after her husband “
Dear Christian Westerner:
Or should I say neo-Christian? If it is true that you are Indian, I just remind you that your ancestors were Hindus, and forcefully converted into Christians, either by sword (remember Goa?) or by deceive. Just by denying the truth, this will not cease to exist.
What is your problem with me being Hindu? What do you care? Why so much rage? You repeat as a parrot one by one all the prejudices of someone, most probably a westerner (or with western masters) who only talks of your lack of profundity in the knowledge of Hinduism.
If it is true that you are Indian, which seems incredible for the westernised mind you show, nobody prevents you from continuing being a Christian. Even in Hindu India. If you don´t see Hinduism as part of your culture, being Indian as you say, it is because your masters are foreigners that have got through generations to uproot you from your own soil and blinded you from sheer History.
If you think with me it will work the typical strategy of demeaning the tradition, just remain relaxed and do not waste your energy. No matter the amount of calumny about Hinduism you spit, it will not convince neither me, nor anybody else with a bit of knowledge. Hidden in 2 letters, “EJ” you spit venom and kick out of…powerlessness?.
By the way, I am a very proud HIndu. Your provocations sound like those of a child seeing how to enrage more an adult. I don´t need to convince anybody, unlike Christians. Peace will be when Christians and Muslims by the sake of a general amnesia, forget that they are obliged to convert others…or to try to at least.
I do not need to convince anybody, but I do not like biased distorted information in your attempt for giving Hinduism a bad name, which many may read.
Should I quote from the Old Testament and its wrathful Yahweh, who encourages the killing of innocents? Because these are real statements. Perpetuated in the (many) versions of Bibles that the maaaany Christian denominations utilise.
Your quote of Vedas are the translations utilised by missionaries to demean Hinduism. These translations are not conveying the real meaning in Sanskrit. The proof lies in the following verses which talk of alive women coming first to their houses. So in reality, those verses DO NOT EVEN TALK OF WIDOWS, but of wives.
The Rig Veda itself is praising the gods who protect widows. What a nonsense and biased then is this translation that you present to support the feeble repeated arguments of “Hinduism mistreating women”?
In the Rig Veda it is encouraged to let the dead depart and alive remain alive.
Sati has been practised very rarely in India, but missionaries and British utilised the same strategy than you: pointing at it and inflating the numbers to give Hinduism a bad name. What has been called the practice of Sati referred to some women in old times who to protect their honor prefered to burn themselves (always a decision taken by themselves and never imposed) than loosing their it in the hands of invaders.
Sorry but I fully support and belong to a tradition, the Vedic Dharma which breaths life into a culture, the Hindu Culture, which raises the femininity to the status of Goddess and Goddesses, who considers a Mother worthy of even more respect by the son than the father; who encourages men to look up women as the Goddess Herself, to treat all women except for one´s wife as sisters or aunties to purify the lower tendencies of men. I understand all of this is too much sacredness altogether for a person belonging to a dogmatic religion which doesn´t permit to question the tenets but just have blind belief. To a religion in which God is a Male only just to perpetuate their view of women as inferior, as has always been historically in all the western societies by the influence of the patriarchal Abrahamic religions. The reason of this upsurge of Feminism in the West artificially imported in India, where is not required at all, and even harmful. If only india remained in its Hindu ethos.
“First correct yourself and clean your own house, and only afterwards point out what you consider defects in others. Maybe by then, you will not see so many defects all around!”
Vengeful Yahweh? Where? Asking for killing of innocents? See below.
Rig Veda 9.13.9 “May you (O love divine), the beholder of the path of enlightenment, purifying our mind and destroying the infidels who refuse to offer worship, come and stay in the prime position of the eternal sacrifice.”
Rig Veda 7.6.3 “May the fire divine chase away those infidels, who do not perform worship and who are uncivil in speech. They are niggards, unbelievers, say no tribute to fire divine and offer no homage. The fire divine turns those godless people far away who institute no sacred ceremonies.”
Rig Veda 8.70.11 “May your friend, the cloud, hurl that infidel down from heaven who differs from us in rites and rituals, is inhuman, who does not observe fire sacrificials, and who does not show reverence to Nature’s bounties.”
Rig Veda 8.64.1-2 “May our hymns please you; O lord of resolute will power, please display your bounty. May you drive off the infidels. May you crush with your foot the niggard churls who offer no homage. You are powerful; there is none so powerful as you are.”
Rig Veda 5.2.10 “May you roaring flames, O adorable Lord, be manifest in the sky as sharp weapons, to destroy infidels. In his exhilaration may his shining splendour inflict destruction. The godless hands try to bind him from all sides but do not succeed.”
Atharva Veda 11.2.21 Do not covet our cattle, our men, our goats and sheep! Bend thy course elsewhere, O strong god (ugra), slay the offspring of the blasphemers!
Rig Veda 10.118.8 So, Agni, with thy glowing face burn fierce against the female fiends, Shining among Uruksayas
Atharva Veda 1.7.7 O Agni, bring thou hitherward the Yatudhanas bound and chained. And afterward let Indra tear their heads off with his thunder-bolt.
Okay. I understand you can just blew off Rig Vedic verse, concerning Sati. What about the rest? See below. I will help.
https://wunrn.com/2008/09/sati-burning-of-widows-historical-text-on-genocide-of-women-in-hinduism/
And UN is not a Christian missionary organization, just FYI If you can prove me wrong, more power to you!
If you are a woman, aren’t you ashamed of supporting such a regressive ideology? Aryan invasion was the worst thing happened to India. Dravidians were better off with their animism.
You seem not to know how to comment without insulting and giving names? Obviously, you are projecting your aggressive thoughts on me.Talking on internet doesn´t give you free hand to disrespect others and doing it ad hominen shows only your desperation. Mind your ways and control your venomous tongue because this abusive strategy done by evangelists doesn´t work with me. You seem to reflect all that you point out on others. Learn to respect first, and then comment afterwards.
– St. Thomas arrival at India is a myth, acknowledged as such even by the Catholic Church.
– Aryan/ Dravidian theory is a construct to divide Indians. A pity whoever has fallen into it and continues the trend to confuse others.
– Quoting wrong translations distorted to fit evangelising purposes doesn´t serve to proof the reality of Hindu Dharma.
” you seem to project your religion upon every other religions on the planet. ” What is this nonsense of conclusion you arrive at?
Yes, I am a Spaniard Hindu lady who defends and will ever defend Hinduism, no matter how many atrocities are said about it. I am afraid that you do not know how to respect anybody. In other places your comments would be banned for insulting. Be grateful that they are giving you the space to vent out all your frustration and rage here.
Again quoting distorted translations doesn´t prove anything.
Still with Aryan invasion theory? It has been dismantled long back, update yourself. Tamil language is also based in Sanskrit. The shastras originated in the South are very much in tune with the Vedas. They were not invasions that brought Sanskrit in India. North and South were in quite natural flowing. Christians in India have aligned with foreigner masters and allow them to dictate their own history.
Human rights western associations and NGOs have colonised India. They are in sync with all other forces that try to break India with the help of Christians and communists from within, with the aim of pressing its global agenda, destroying local costumes and goods. One only needs to see the results of Indians hating their own ethos as a result.
Oh really? Why do you take it for granted that all Christians in India converted by white men? Goan Inquisition happened only in Goa. Christians in Kerala have been Christians, since at least 1st century AD. That’s even before white men converted to Christianity from paganism. Thank you for showing your obsession with white skin. Hindu obsession with white skin is very popular and still plaguing India. I will give you two verses. Please let me know of your thoughts.
Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 6.4.7 “If she does not willingly yield her body to him, he should buy her with presents. If she is still unyielding, he should strike her with a stick or with his hand and overcome her, repeating the following mantra: “With power and glory I take away your glory.” Thus she becomes discredited.”
Brahma Purana 10.75 ”Dying Immediately after the husband is the greatest duty of women.
Maybe you will have no problem supporting such repressive thinking in your religion. For some reasons, you seem to project your religion upon every other religions on the planet. Ghar Wapsi is going like crazy by Hindu terrorists. Dravidians in India has been repressed because of this white supremacist ideology and no wonder racist people like you is championing this cult. Dravidians kicked out your racist RSS masters in the South.
If you are a Spaniard (as you say), why do you take it for granted that the world is under your feet? Seems you are suffering from narcissistic disorder.
There is no distorted translation. All translations are done by Arya Samaj and they know Sanskrit better than some Western neo-Hindus who learn their religion from Youtube.
Hindus has a long legacy of sexual discrimination, along with discrimination towards Dravidians.
“The religious sanction behind the customary belief, in preference for male child to a female child, has remained instrumental for female infanticides since time immemorial and its generalisation makes it if not genocide than of course a “sacramental” or “customary” genocide.”
http://file.scirp.org/Html/3-2810071_52493.htm
Cmon, where did you find female empowerment in your religion? Which fraud guru told you such bald faced lies?
First of all, identify yourself and do not hide behind two letters: you said you are a Christian Indian. Are you? Who can believe you seeing the charms that you display here? Seeing that you change nicknames to enter here?
What else are you? Evangelist? Pastor? Or just a frustrated person?
You come in different disguises and appear every certain time here utilising different nicknames. Do you think I am stupid for not having realised that?. I told you: mind your ways: first thing will be to stop you from being able to comment here. If you are so brave as you pretend to be, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND STOP HIDDING behind different names. I will not tolerate anymore your ABUSIVE AND DISRESPECTFUL tone. Your energy is disgusting, intolerably aggressive and invasive. Maybe you got to convert many by this way. This is how you convey the love of Jesus? Ah no! Jesus only loves and saves his flock. That is why you feel the need and the duty to go, with metaphorical (I hope only) sword in hand to “convince others”. So converting others to Christianity is your duty but when they diminish your flock by Ghar Wapsi, bringing back people to the tradition of their ancestors, is Hindu terror? What a way of seeing things! You are giving a wonderful portrait of exactly what Hindus should not tolerate!!
Again I say: Aryan/Dravidian division is FALSE. No matter how many times a lie is repeated, it will not become a truth.
And the paragraph of preference for male child came after the muslim invasion, and not before: the proof? Rishis as well as Rishikas of yore were well respected exactly the same. We have shastras given by Rishikas as well as by Rishis. We have many women Saints along the history in India. The wife of the Guru was as much respected as the Guru HImself. We have Gods and Goddesses who are equally venerated. We have a whole tradition of veneration to the Goddess. Something than cannot be conceived by a Male God-centered religion.
All the mistreatment to women came after the muslim invasion and was perfectioned with the arrival of Christianity, which besides destroys the local religion wherever it is. That sick need of converting others that only brings violence with itself!! We were much better of in a purely Hindu India. As this need of converting the rest of population of the Abrahamic religions is disrespectful and intolerable.
Having said this, I will tell you once more and the last as if you want to continue your insane repetitive speech, please find other forum: no matter how many DISTORTED quotations you cite, like those on the infidels when NOWHERE IN THE VEDAS TALK OF INFIDELS but of demons: those who do not worship are considered demons in those parts of the Vedas. Do you consider yourself one? If you want to include yourself it is your free will. PEOPLE WILL KNOW THAT WHATEVER YOU CITE WILL BE DISTORTED TO SUIT YOUR CONVENIENCE, as you have done in all your comments.
I do not know of anybody who converted to Hinduism through youtube, but I know of many who converted to Christianity for some coins and false promises of a better future.
And really, what do you care whether I am a Hindu or a butterfly? What is this obssesive take on my comments? Learn how to represent better Jesus, because what you show as a Christian is really revolting. I will always defend the right of everybody to live their own religion; but the moment they step out offending me and what is important for me, be sure I will always oppose people like you.
Internet has certain rules, educate yourself. Again I say LEARN RESPECT TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD. I will not continue responding toxic people with toxic speeches like yours. GOOD BYE AND IMPROVE YOURSELF (as a person).
My goodness. What a nasty package is this EJ, so full of blind bigotry, hypocrisy, hatred and the most laughable double standards, brainwashed as he has been by the foreign-funded army of poisonous pamphleteers whose sole purpose in life is to distort the Hindu religion and incite resentment and hatred of fellow citizens.
Even so, I am very glad EJ stopped by and gave us plenty of instances of so-called “arya samaj” translations that are vicious falsifications. Terms like “infidel” are unmistakably Abrahamic — there was no concept of “infidel” with all the contempt that term conveys in the Rig Veda. I wont even bother to address some of the idiotic “quotes from the Brhadaranyaka Upanishad ” — a copy of which I happen to have in my possession.
This is the price that India is paying for tolerating the parasitism of proselytism that gains access and sanctuary — and then attempts to eat up the host culture from the inside.Despicable. It is the same pattern that has played out in ancient South American civilizations, with Native Americans, with South Africans that were dehumanized by apartheid — by the religion of “Love thy neighbor” no less. We can see how well EJ expresses this fundamental tenet of Christianity.
Their “love” involves demeaning and annihilating all cultures and ways of interpreting divinity with their own. Never mind that even within their faith they have any number of denominations and disagreements.
Here is my response to the following gems from EJ
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You have some nerve making this claim. Where do you see Hindus trying to compel others to convert or else face eternal damnation? If you have no problem with people standing outside schools in rural Tamil Nadu and handing out bibles to *school children* — literally throwing it in their lap as they get into their auto rickshaw — then what business do you have calling Ghar Wapasi “terrorism?” What about the huge spectacles of hysterical lunacy staged by your fellow Christians in the South in which they hoodwink people into believing they have witnessed a “miracle?” Organized and deliberate deceit on poor unsuspecting and gullible people is no less a crime than any act of terrorism. And this too like terrorism is done in God’s name.
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Goan Inquisition happened only in Goa and Spanish Inquisition happened only in Spain. What kind of idiotic rationale is this? Have you any knowledge of the instruments of torture that were used? Of people being burned alive? All this for what, to show your religion is morally superior?
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Please travel around India and speak to some real scholars. This “Aryan Invasion” myth has been conclusively and definitively debunked. There was a thriving civilization in India before the pastoral tribes from central Asia moved in. They had ties with the ancient Sumeriaan civilization in Mesopotamia. They had different gods but their culture cannot simply be diminished as mere “animism.” Animism might have been one aspect of their belief system. Everybody was better off without the rabidly supremacist religious ideology propagated by Europeans through their Crusades and conquests that were mainly about their insatiable greed for resources and wealth.
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I know all about the translations racket so you can wipe that sneer off your face. I had an argument with a pastor bout the outrageous claims made by Charuhaasan’s character in a Tamil movie where he plays a Brahmin who converts to Christianity and imparts wisdom to his wife about how Adi Shankara got his inspiration from the Bible! I said why dont you leave our scriptures alone? Why do you find it necessary to lie and concoct fictional history to establish your version of “truth?” Unlike EJ, I tried genuinely to engage with him in a respectful manner without any personal slights. He was equally respectful, but sadly closed minded ( as expected) . So don’t waste your energy trying to pass off these crappy fabrications as “translation.” It was probably produced with someone with too much time on their hands like yourself.
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Yes. This is true. But are you telling me discrimination against women is any less in the Christian and Islamic world? You cannot seriously believe that unless you have been living in a cave all these years. Are you aware of the impregnation of Nigerian nuns by their priests? What about the sordid and long running record of pedophilia in the Catholic Church and the massive cover up from the top down? Women are till fighting sexual discrimination in the workplace in the US, lack of police protection for spousal abuse. As for racism, I dont know if you are based in India or the US — please read the African American author Ta Nehisi Coates to get some perspective on what discrimination has cost African Americans, how children were separated from parents during slaver, how women were enslaved, men lynched. Where did this vile racism come from, do you think they all got their hands on a copy of Manu Dharma Shastra.l? What about the Mormons with their multiple wives, what about the continuation of child marriages in the United States?
So please EJ, go back to your life and leave us in peace. It is one thing to accept the Lord as your Shepherd — but I seriously doubt the Lord intended humans to function like sheep.
Please practice your faith as you see fit and leave us to praise what we see as the finer qualities of ours. I have sung enough Christian hymns in school to know that your people do no less.
Mr. or Ms. EJ. One thing is clear to the visiters of thie blog that you are a Western paid writer to attack on Indian religion and its heritage! Whether you are a Christian or Muslim or Hindu, who cares? You are an Indian and the son/daughter of this soil. For mere sake of monetary or other benefits you sold yourself? How much you are paid? How shame to sell yourself to foreign countries?
Arya Samaj is not authentic for Sanskrit or Sanatana Dharma and people like you would refer only the book of that standard to spew your venom on others especially Hinduism.
Let me say, 600 years of one religion and 300 years other could not shake the base of Hinduism, forget about uprooting, a few people like you through blogs like these cannot even think of it. Hold your tongue!
Your Adharma attitude itself will pay the price for your deed! Hope you will not even get the chance realize this. Let your Jesus give you peace of mind and common sense!
@ Durgasiva: Please use your time on any good work rather than with this brainless person who sold the brain for the sake money.
@ Maria Ji: How you are still helpless to resolve your technical problem for deleting such shits in this pious platform? Pl. do it at once!
Yes, I noticed it too late that he or she has come back.
By then @Durgashiva had already replied, so I left it.
Have sent to trash and spam several of his abusive comments, don’t know why he automatically gets allowed…
Do not worry. He has put himself in shame by showing his true colours. We need to be united in front of this people for the sake of Dharma.
Thanks.
May your tribe increase! Simple, true presentation of facts that are conveniently hidden by secular forves6
thanks
did you get a reply to your email? i share your concern regarding the generousity.
Excellent!
Short, brief and to the fricking Point!
If only the People realise that ‘Truth’ is simple, Very Simple…..
Nevertheless, I have Confidence in the Supreme Divine that, the cattle will return home in the evening…… :-))
What is ailing Hinduism? https://samvitjyoti.blogspot.com/2019/03/what-is-ailing-hinduism.html
Swami Gangeshwaranandji Maharaj Udaseen
Swami Vivekananda said that all that is to be known about religion has been discovered by the Hindu Rishis – what remains is its application. To cut it very very short, Hinduism is holistic and integrates. Christianity and Islam, as practised, differentiate
A very beautiful and wonderful description, with an accurate depiction of the contrasts with the other two religions.
Honest plain simple absolutely true undisputable facts.
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Looking to all details.
I congratulate for your faith and trust.
Thanks for your resurch in the topic.
Hitesh Kapoor
Beautiful explanation appreciate the narration
Sorry, saw your comment only now
Beautiful Explanation……
Simply brilliant! You have absolute clarity on the essence of Sanatan Dharma!
Wonderful comparison of other two religion and hindusium.even i don’t have a knowledge