Judging from media reports, India has a BIG problem with rape. No other country seems to come even close. All over the globe “another rape in India” is reported ever so often. On my last visit to Germany, I jolted when on 27. December 2013 the most popular TV news ended with “another gang rape in India”. It was one of only five topics of the 15 minutes broadcast.
Even my sister wondered how a gang rape in India made it to the main news in Germany. That same day in a conservative estimate, over a thousand rapes would have been committed all over the world. In the USA some 200, in South Africa some 170. In the western cities, the statistics show a high percentage, much higher than in India. Many of those rapes would have been gang rapes. In many cases, the girl or woman would have been killed. Behind each of those statistical figures are painful, heartrending stories. If we knew what is happening at this very moment on this earth – how much pain humans inflict on other humans and on animals – we could not bear it. With so much crime happening everywhere, why is India being singled out and shamed with “another gang rape”, when it actually has only a fraction of the crimes other countries have in relative numbers? In absolute numbers of course it would be no surprise if India with her huge population of four times the size of the United States were number one apart from China. Even then it is not number one. USA is.
The deluge of rape reports on India started with the shameful gang rape of a young woman, Jyoti, in a bus in Delhi on December 16th, 2012. Jyoti died. The six culprits were convicted. One committed either suicide (official version) or was killed by prison inmates. Four got death sentence. The sixth was a minor, six months short of his 18th birthday. He got away with 3 years in a reprimand home. As he allegedly was the most brutal of all and responsible for the death of Jyoti, efforts are on to try him as an adult.
This gang rape received unprecedented publicity. It reached national and local news all over the globe. It reached even a friend in Slovenia, who is usually oblivious of what is happening. Why was it broadcasted all over with such intensity? Was it because Indians protested in a big way and demanded harsh punishment? Those protests should have actually gone in favour of India, as they made clear that Indians consider rape as completely against their culture. But the opposite happened:
Ever since that December 2012, news on India have centered almost exclusively on “another rape” and even on the “rape culture of India”. One year later, the tragic story of Jyoti was again splashed over half a page in a local Nuremberg newspaper, and in its year-end- review, the Spiegel magazine did not feature anything about India, not even the Uttarakhand disaster with over 7000 dead, but – a group of victims of sexual abuse learning martial arts in Lucknow, ready to take on anyone who molests women. Obviously it was implied that such molesters are lurking at every corner.
India does have a problem with rape. Other countries also have this problem. Yet the exclusive focus by the world media on “rapes in India’ is not justified and raises suspicion of an agenda behind it. Articles appeared now, often written by Indians with Hindu names, that Indian (read Hindu) culture is to be blamed for the rapes, because it does not consider women as ‘autonomous entities’, which probably means that they can’t do what they want. The Washington Post proclaimed that sexual violence was endemic in India. The Reuters Trust Law group named India one of the worst countries in the world for women. A Harvard committee crafted strategies for ‘adolescent education’ to change the Indian mindset about gender. It was getting a bit much. Don’t westerners look at their own record – past and present – and compare it with that of India? Are they not ashamed?
Anyone who cares to find out will easily discover that rape is not in the culture of India, and women have a good, even respected position compared to other cultures or countries. This position may not be in tune with the view of feminists, but are feminists the measure of all things? Do those feminists believe that village women in India want to be like them? In my view, those feminists look pitiable in the eyes of those often very strong village women who see Sita as their ideal. The main anguish of those women is poverty, not gender roles.
To blame Hindu culture is preposterous to say the least. In fact, if Hindu culture would have prevailed and Christianity and Islam had never appeared on the scene, the world would be a better place. Christians and Muslims have traditionally used rape as a tool of war. For them, the ‘other’ was never worthy of any consideration and could be brutally raped and killed never mind if they were civilians. The Geneva Convention’s purpose is to stop this barbaric behaviour. Hindus never needed a Geneva Convention. They also fought wars, but they did not brutalize women or the civilian population.
The campaign to paint India blacker than it is sadly has worked. It is now a ‘fact’ for most foreigners (and for the convinced Indians) that Indian women have to live terrible lives, more terrible than anywhere else. No disagreeing possible. Everyone will shout you down with plenty of horrific examples. Yes, there are plenty of horrific examples and one needs to find out the reasons and find remedies. But individual criminals do not define a country, even less, if other countries have more of them. So why is India beaten with “another gang rape” again and again? Is the purpose to spoil the image of India? And if so, why?
In recent times, Indians have clearly made a mark. There is tremendous talent in the country. It is acknowledged that Indians have brains. This expresses itself in a new found confidence. ‘Western values’ are more likely to be scrutinized now and the ancient Hindu tradition is seeing a renaissance. The ‘established opinion’ that Christianity and Islam are any time better than Hinduism is being challenged. Modern western values are also more likely to be scrutinized and the west does not like it. The established opinions have power and this power seems to be used to malign India in a most unfair manner.
Rape is a delicate subject and whoever tries to place it into perspective is likely to get slaps from all sides, not least from the women’s groups. Not many will dare to state, that India has a problem, but not a bigger one than other countries, and does not need interference from the west in handling it. In fact, India has a great advantage. The family system is generally still strong especially among the masses who have escaped English education. Celibacy before marriage is still valued and not ridiculed. Romantic love is still seen for what it is – a temporary emotion and not a solid basis for a lifelong companionship. Compromise among family members and even sacrifice are not yet condemned as restricting individual freedom. Sita is still an ideal for most Hindu women. Bhakti, love for God, can still be expressed.
The fact that these values are still strong is not appreciated by western opinion makers. Those values are considered out of sync with the Zeitgeist. They pose a challenge to the western lifestyle which is being pushed into India. ‘Modern, western values’ mean for example (I learned this from an article in Focus, a German magazine) to live in rainbow or patchwork families, Those families will either have gays as ‘parents’ or children from different partners as the parents would have had several live-in relationships earlier. It is supposed to be a great learning experience for everyone. A book will soon be out in Germany that examines whether gays make better ’parents’ than the traditional man–woman combination. It is overlooked, that these ‘parents’ can’t produce children together. But then, who needs children in the west?
Traditional Indian society is clearly out of sync with this modern lifestyle and to portray it in a poor light, “another rape” makes headlines every other day. Care is taken that only rapes committed by men with Hindu names reach the limelight and are discussed on TV. India has some 200 million Muslims and some 50 million Christians and they also commit rapes and very cruel ones, as well. For example the minor in the rape case of Jyothi is a Muslim. This news, however, did not make it to the mainstream media. There seems to be communalism in regard to broadcasting crimes, and maybe even in registering them. This makes sense, if the objective is to demean Hindu culture and thereby propel it to reform and open up. It is expected to leave those old fashioned family values behind, to have condom vending machines in colleges, to consider free sex as normal. What better start than to talk of rape? It prepares the ground for allowing westerners to prepare the syllabus for ‘adolescent education’. And once the youth is convinced, the ‘backward’ Hindu society will be a thing of the past.
This prospect would be a horror for the Indian masses from all religions. Hindu society is indeed rigid in certain aspects and has scope to improve, but its values are still highly preferable to western, modern ‘values’. One just needs to look at western societies to realise that the modern life style is a failed model. It has already regrettable fallout: many youngsters are without direction because of too much freedom. They long for clear rules and turn to fundamentalist, evangelical churches. Hindu Dharma would be the better option. But they are not likely to get to know about it in an unbiased manner.
By Maria Wirth
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I agree with you Ms.Maria, You article was very clearly introspected the allegations made on image of India-the country which taught civilization to the rest of the world.
Tell me which tree gets more stone hit, a full of riped one or a dried one? India is rich in culture, tradition, custom, religion, eduction, etc., like a fully riped tree. Those who want taste, will pluck any of these best fruits and enrich their knowledge, all those who want to spoil India’s image (because their country/culture/religion does not provide these qualities) will stone the tree instead of pluck. Nothing to worry about these action of spoiling image of India as this country’s basement is strong enough to withstand such false allegations.
with one stone you have shot many bulls maria through this article. Excellent read. A westerner highlighting the real status of western countries while most of we indians believe all is well there …but not here.
Good post.
The west is used to bashing India. There was a time they all came searching for it. In the near future it will again gain its lost stature. The west is used to looking ahead hence the bashing.
Very good post, Ms Maria.
Maria’s is one of the few voices questioning the agenda behind India bashing. Kudos to her for being bold and challenging the dominant narrative.
A common mistake is to believe that if one speaks a western language, is educated at a university and comes from an affluent society, then one must be a progressive minded seeker of truth, capable of discerning the truth and uncovering the layers of deceit and propaganda. But alas the reality is that most westerners are as much victims of propaganda and agenda driven news sites as were people under Hitlers Germany.
Individuals like Maria who question the assumptions behind whatevers currently the most fashionable theory are still rare.
Do keep up the good work.
Regards
Superb, Maria, as usual. An eye opener for both, indians who idealise the west, and westerners who are biased in their vast majority because of lack of true information and too much brainwashing by the media. Congrats for your excellent work of observation and fair analysis of such a delicate issue.
I accept every single point made in the article. India is the only country in the world where a large section of west influenced media repeatedly broadcasts something unpalatable. People can see the truth behind it (except the few judgmental idiots ). However if a lie is not merely repeated but broadcast thousands of times, it is natural that sensible people also get influenced. Can we blame the people? No, because wherever they turn they find the same non-sense; hence nonsense prevails over sense. Indians need to overcome this docility for their own good.
I just have one request. Please do not try to bring in the topic of homosexuality in every possible instance. They are very much humans- but a little different. Let us be accommodative and not shun them. Let us accept the way they are… If not we are starting another cascade of social stigma.
This reminds me of a conversation from a couple of weeks back. I was planning to visit India with a friend. But my aunt convinced us that India is unsafe. She recommended Spain instead. When we turned to Google, this story turned up – [British tourist, 31, brutally gang-raped metres from Spanish holiday apartment](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293275/British-tourist-31-brutally-gang-raped-metres-Spanish-holiday-apartment-men-including-70-year-old.html).
A couple of searches later, we found the [British Behavior Abroad](https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/230013/British_Behaviour_Abroad_report_2012-13_UPDATED_15_08_13.pdf) report for 2013. It says that 31 British tourists were raped in Spain last year. Another 39 were sexually assaulted! We’re talking about the tourists of just one nationality. And we’re talking about a single year! For India, it was 0 rapes and 1 sexual assault (the notorious case of the woman who jumped from her hotel window to escape a sexual assault). There is no under-reporting because these figures are from reports to British embassy, not Indian police.
That said, I’ve heard from some Indian acquaintances that India IS more unsafe than most of America and Europe (including Spain). We’re visiting Seychelles this Feb!
Gays are of course not only humans, but often very humane and sensitive, and some feel inadequate due to feeling differently. However, in my view, this issue should not be dragged to the marketplace with gay parades, talk shows and openly ?coming out?. Hindu society left alone would deal better with it than Christian and Muslim societies which demand punishment and liberal society which wants to celebrate it as something special and great. Hindus would see it for what it is. It is not the norm, but deviations from the norm happen everywhere and are obviously part of the scheme of things. It would certainly not be punished, and also not be celebrated.
Maria, it’s incredibly well written. West continues to be myopic when it comes to dealing with India. Somehow, there is this notion that by creating these negative narratives about India, its culture and its people, it can intervene and once again colonize this great nation. Once they managed to create this inferiority complex and ruled India for 250 yrs and looted plenty. Indians succumb to such narratives and believe them. And, those Indian intellectuals and media people who are already slaves of western colonial masters, help reinforce these narratives and deepen the self-loathing in these already weakened minds. This “rape culture” narrative is just another one of those in the long tradition of showing India in bad light. The strategic objective seems to be, at some point Indians would embrace western morals (oxymoron?) and Christian value system fully, turn very fissiparous, highly conducive for balkanization. Then, once again, western powers can (this time there will be some Islamic powers too) share the loot, command cheap labor and all the rich natural resources. While this sounds like a conspiracy theory, history is full of such grand scale manipulations. This time though, it won’t work. People like Rajiv Malhotra (intellectual kshetra), NaMo (political kshetra), Baba Ramdev (spiritual kshetra) and many others are fighting back and reawakening the great Indian masses, Vivekananda-style, is gathering momentum. Unfortunately, West is not able to see it. That’s why I called them myopic in the beginning. West could treat India as an equal and respect its great civilization and partner with the people to find peaceful solutions to this ailing planet. Instead, it is once again engaging in dirty manipulations and in the process allowing Jehadi and Marxist elements to grow in strength. This is absolutely catastrophic for the world, not just India. I really hope the Indians understand this game and force the west to change its attitude for the good of this world.
good post
India bashing is the best past time of the western world from the time Mr.Macalay reported to the Crown that He traveled the length and breadth of India in nineteenth century and could not locate
a single beggar and could not understood why the most of people were always in a Festive Mode/Mood.Then “THEY” Planned an Education System which would ENSLAVE THE MIND-BODY-INTELLECT AND SOUL OF THE SO CALLED HINDUS” and unfortunately for the World The Process Is Still On and HOw?
Unfortunately, the truth and facts have no place in India as far as such issues are concerned. The agenda got hijacked by few naxal/ left leaning so called intellectuals or paid media. In our country, the 4th estate is not independent or non partisan. The recent example of rise of AAP. Anchors sitting in their studios spitting venom for 24 hours, were actually working and promoting AAP. Secondly, the so called intellectual classes operating under foreign agencies (every street in India, you will find 3 NGOs !!) – the most lucrative business is running NGOs in India – won’t be surprised if Tatas, Ambanis and Birlas may also move into NGO activity) – the best and easiest way to make money and become famous without any accountability.
No one is bothered and media just talk emotionally (pick up isolated incident, invite so called champions and fill air time). The nirbhaya gang rape happened in a place called Mahipalpur (one isolated dark corner near a national highway – close to Intl airport). I pass through this place every day. Today, it is is worst than it was in December 2012 – these crying babies are not bothered about this. Even today, life for women in this place is a nightmare. These so called progressive brigade will be happy if some other mishap happen so that they against get visibility on television.
The city is not safe, admitted but lot of it is hype created by elements with ulterior motive (the reason is: this city is the same for many years and suddenly too many things are talked about to defame the city). I have two teenage daughters and of course I too am concerned but the scene is not as is made out by these elements.
In closing, I am in complete agreement – THERE IS INDEED A DESIGN…
India is a great country where many Enlightened souls have taken birth – Jesus also came to learn between the age of 18 to 21 and returned at the end to live as Yusuf in Kashmir.
Whatever the west tries will only increase their bad Karma and it will rebound back. As even countries and religions have their Karmas. Even Jesus said “As you sow so you shall reap.” Neither single nor groups are free of the LAWS OF NATURE.
Its interesting that none of the comments on this post appear to be by Indian women – they’re either by Indian men or foreign women. I agree that it does seem quite suspicious that the rest of the world is so focused on the issue of rapes in India – hidden agenda much? – but you have to see that most Indian women feel vulnerable and targeted. I’m speaking of the urban demographic of females, from the age of say twelve to the mid-sixties – even before the recent rash of rape reporting began we have all felt vulnerable. To eve-teasing, sexual assault in public and private spaces and transportation, violence, rape. We have all have been leered at, groped, harassed, we have felt violated in some way or another since puberty, whenever we have left ‘safe confines’. Safety – this is what I have never felt out in the open unless I am accompanied by my father or some man old enough to be so. This is why I am pushed to remain inside the house – this is why my college authorities, my family and I enforce stringent restrictions on my movement even during daylight hours. Tell me this – does this happen in other countries? Do you try to scramble back home after 5pm even in neighborhoods which are considered safe, do you dread the thought of public transport, do you constantly need a male chaperone?
“Sita is still an ideal for most Hindu women.”
No, I would say Draupadi or Durga Ma would be my ideal – and she is for many women I know, from the maidservants I know to my grandmother. Sita was a pushover, Draupadi stood up for herself.
“Anyone who cares to find out will easily discover that rape is not in the culture of India, and women have a good, even respected position compared to other cultures or countries. This position may not be in tune with the view of feminists, but are feminists the measure of all things? Do those feminists believe that village women in India want to be like them? In my view, those feminists look pitiable in the eyes of those often very strong village women who see Sita as their ideal. The main anguish of those women is poverty, not gender roles.”
Yes village women do in fact want to be like us. I know because my extended family lives in small villages in West Bengal, I know because I have spoken the maidservants and drivers’ wives I encounter since I live in a high-rise building – they want education, they want jobs and money, they want the right to choose how many children they will have and when, they want the same rights as the men in their families have enjoyed for generations. Ask any woman about her daughters and her eyes will light up with pride as she speaks about how well she’s doing in school, how she wants a better world for her and worries that her husband might try to marry her off early. We, with all our advantages, do not look ‘pitiable’ to them – they want to be like us and more power to them.
“For example the minor in the rape case of Jyothi is a Muslim. This news, however, did not make it to the mainstream media.”
This is ridiculous. A minor’s name would not be disclosed and Hindu or Muslim or Christian, why make an issue about his religion of all things? That would be the height of communalism.
Maria, you make many valid points in your essay and I am sure that you have the best of intentions, but I feel that you are missing out on the perspective of actual Indian women.
Eye opener for Indian and westerns……..con and pros are present in every where in the world….but showing finger towards India and Indian culture is very bad……during Vivekananda time also, some people from India act as swamiji/mathaji in some other countries and they are used to showing some photos/creating some stories like, Indian women through their children in a river where crocodiles are eating the babies/ and some stories like after husbands death, people of the society/ family forcibly pushing that wive in to the fire where husband dead body is burning…. like this sa many stories are created to raise the funds….as we know Swami vivekanada, is one of the eye opener to the western towards Indians and Indian culture. As Kali yuga darma, Rakshasas are living like humans as normal people in society, It is hard to find out them. but one fine day, god will send his representative to establish Darma again. All the best.
Jaisriram.The number of rapes in other countries may be more higher than India.But our intention is there should be not even a single rape in India.For this the Govt’s should change the worest system of Mechale education n impliment moral n culture based education along with their regular subjects.
Lovely point of view, worth the read, The writer has gone in depth in to the vital issues. Good unbiased observation indeed.
Adriana: as a spaniard Hindu who feels outrageous with the mainstream attitude from the west towards India and Hinduism, I do appreciate this info you provide, which, together with Maria´s article, I´ll try to spread among my acquaintances. In the news here they keep informing widely of each and every rape in India, and only by chance I came to know about this piece of news of what is happening in Spain itself. Shocking.
It´s a matter of pure justice to defend the truth.
Yes Praveen ji, oxymoron. Except for certain values in the work field, some “apparent” fair play in sports (full of mafias behind), and certain way of treating children that finally has become a total lack of discipline and a dictatorship from the children and the teenagers, this society is in complete decline.
Thank you Maria for such a lucid and objective article. I have had in mind many of the questions you asked – and I am thankful that you have given some answers and supporting points too…it was great to read your writing!
this is happening especially now because the general elections are round the corner. the liberals want to shame the hindu culture, so that people are disrnchanted with it and donot consolidate as a conservative block to vote en masse for the conservative party.
There is reasonable ground to suspect that the Christian Missionaries are at work behind this incessant barrage connecting India ( read Hindu) and rape. I will not be surprised if the UK and the US are as usual on to their mischief to denigrate and bring disorder in Indian society. Per capita of the population there is much much more rape in the US and in some countries of Europe! To say this is not to soft pedal and put a gloss on the shameful incidents in India. Has any one considered WHY so many rapes THESE DAYS? See the TV shows and cinema in the poor country. add to that disgusting “freedom of expression” the massive and unrelenting urbanization. The rural people have no work to do and no food to eat. They are willing to be on the pavements of Delhi and other big cities as anonymous beings with no accountability to the environment.
R.Venkatanarayanan
Like Hitler’s policy announce a Right Man being Wrong A Thousand Times will definitely make Him Appear Wrong.The West/USA Is the Master Of These Games for Centuries.
Sanya,
You have made very fine observations. I agree with some of your points.
My wife keeps telling me how insecure she feels when traveling alone. I have personally observed boys and youngsters leering and commenting on women. I have never understood what kind of pleasuew it gives them to make such obsene comments.
I also agree that Maa Durga should be the ideal for today’s women. I believe women should train in martial arts and self defence.
However, I feel that women should not leave Sita altogether. Sita’s modesty and chastity should not be forgotten. It is this trait that sets Indian women apart.
Well, times are changing. Indian women are capable of deciding what is good for them and set their own course.It is not for us men to order them about.
Women have always been the centre of India’s culture and tradition. It is they who keep our heritage intact.
My opinion India’s cultural legacy is now in the hands of its women. My only hope is that they preserve it to some extent.
Thank you Maria, not because you have rightly defended the culture I’ve been raised in or not because you have infact pointed out that India does have a relatively sound model of lifestyle.
I want to thank you because after reading this post I myself got a good amount a relief as I battle between the two evidently extreme lifestyles, love and relationship models. I’m living in Germany where I constantly question my Indian way of upbringing. Germany apparently has excess openness, rational way of thinking and an individualistic approach (which btw is also why I love Germany ) which I see facilitates tremendous personal fulfillment compared to that in India. On the other hand making compromises and refraining from human desires for moral reason is almost considered futile here. One might think of this also as a ‘ this is how it should be ‘ model of life. However in the end of the day it is very unsettling because then my Indian values end up seeming orthodox and useless when I know they aren’t. Thank you for making us feel good about ourself.
Maria,
Your well written article should be an eye opener for Indians mainly rather than to any foreigner for they understand this country better than the natives do.
Where as I agree that even teasing is worst in India, hence a harassed girls and women. But notice the following
The number of rapes in Delhi per year is about 1200. England has population of three and half times than Delhi. But the number of rapes is more than 9000 rapes/year. Situation is similar in other western countries.
Where as a single rape is reprehensible, but to pick loudspeakers and calling India the rape intensive country is clearly going off the limb. Indians should indulge in self critique their society, but while doing that they need to have balance of perspective. This loss of balance of Perspectives is the hall mark of our English educated elite. Who glasses need refocusing.
IMHO of a western hindu, and given that NOT all the paths lead to the same goal, only dharmic lifestyle brings the fulfillment that everybody is looking for in life. But in the west, they are looking for it in the wrong place. Be proud, brother, of being different. For that I would suggest you if you permit me and if you don´t know it, the book Being Different by Rajiv Malhotra. It will give you the grounds to defend by your own living the richest spirituality that has already proven successful for taking us to the highest level, which again even unconciously, is what everybody is looking for. Read inspirational sacred shastras and books on hindu saints, create for yourself an adequate atmosphere, meet like minded people if possible, practice some sadhana. That will charge daily your batteries for facing the kurukshetra that is living in a decadent society while being dharmic. And not only at the end of the day, but much later in your life, when you look back you will have an inner satisfaction that no freedom of the ones you can get here, it will give you. Because at the end, the journey is made by the jiva, no matter the whole world around see things differently when you know what you are doing.
Sita was raped by Ravan. She was then shunned by her community AND husband because she got raped. Really Maria, you are going to argue that Hinduism isn’t part of the problem? So is Islam, So is Christianity. In my opinion all of them hold partial blame.
But forget religion for one second, because I agree with you that Hindus shouldn’t be singled out. While it may be true in European media, which is far more dark-skin xenophobic than American media (except for Fox), we in the U.S. haven’t had any bombardment of this being a Hindu problem in India.
Maria’s rhetoric is much like all the Indian politicians and journalists that decry any movie that shows India in its true light (or negative light e.g. Slumdog Millionaire). What if Abraham Lincoln said, “Sure we have slavery, but so does China! Their society sucks far more”, instead of spearheading honest and difficult reform. That is pretty much what your argument against western society boils down to.
Unfortunately, Maria does nothing to address the real issues at stake. Yes the rest of the world has problems, however, the facts are:
1.) India is the largest ‘democracy’ in the world.
2.) India is an incredibly unsafe country for women in general, particularly in the north.
I visit India every few years, and as an American of Indian descent with 3 sisters and a wife, I do feel there are molesters creeping around literally every street corner. But this begs the bigger question of your blog entry, why would you not want to encourage India to hold and control this issue e.g. with the Lucknow-ites learning self defense, and instead become complicit with those that remain in denial that India is in the wrong.
True reform comes from within, so yes, let the talking heads in other countries discriminate and criticize, as they always will. But I sincerely want India to advance, and I want India to focus on ITS OWN issues, not scapegoat or point religious fingers or blame the british, moguls, or any one else. Build better roads, better infrastructure, better basic education, and god damnit yes, a safer society for my daughters, sisters, mothers, aunts, etc.
The efforts of your writing would better go towards affirming
Well, Anand ji. As far as I know, Sita being raped by Ravan and shunned by her comunity and husband is NOT the only version but the most popular perhaps. According to other versions, Sita didn´t have to prove anything afterwards and was not shunned. Things are not black or white and that is taught by the hindu culture. No society is perfect, that is for sure, including Indian, and here this is not said. As far as my understanding is, Maria here is simply giving a different view from the mainstream, making us reflect that perhaps the things can and should be seen from a different point of view. Not denying there are many things to be improved in India (as in EVERY country) I feel that many indians don´t see the things beyond what the westerners want them to see and beyond.
And I find it not fair your last sentence: in a society, all tasks are required to be done. An the eye-opener role that Maria is playing is very much required.
Hi Maria,
Very nice article. Looks like out thoughts are quite close to each other. Everytime i read a negative news about india especially rape from western media i keep questioning their dark intention behind these syco attitude. There are many many good things happening in india but none gets published ..
anyways karma philosphy is powerful so lets see the future 🙂
Maria,
There are two Indias. I am generalising here. The one we call India speaks English and is comfortable with sexuality, homosexuality, Adam vs Eve or Battle of Sexes, Individualism of the Ayn Rand kind, and is actually capable of getting “disgusted” with their fellow human beings for attending Nature’s call in open environs without facilities. This wonderful India does not mind contrived morality(Big business money, stock markets,sports betting, prostitution, drugs,etc.,) but it unleashes its fangs at the thought of state corruption( Scenario: A cop who makes very little money takes a bribe to buy new shoes for his daughter. I don’t endorse his kind of ethics but then I do not have fangs either).
There is another India called Bharat. This one considers sex to be a private affair. It says man should lead the woman during marriage ritual and also in life. He has to protect her and the kids. It believes collective trumps the individual. It also does not get disgusted with fellow human’s uncomfortable moments.
You and your readers can decide on whose behalf the Indian Media (English one in particular) functions.
One of those guys who understands both Indias a little, and can confirm that things are getting lost in translation.
Thanks
Regrettably the above comment must be qualified.
Foreigners ARE raped in India and there is no record because they are afraid to report the incident to the police or their consulates.
There is also the rigmarole of a medical examination in a government hospital that they wish to avoid. They will be met with hostility and prejudice because it is assumed a foreign woman is unchaste.
In the pilgrimage town where I live?I am not referring to Pondicherry here?which has an internationally famous ashram that attracts thousands of foreign visitors between November and March, there were two rapes of foreigners last year (2012-13) that we know about. The year before (2011-12) that there was one rape that we know about. These rapes were not reported. Earlier still, there were two rapes in a ten year period that we know about. One was reported and when the woman was produced in the government hospital for examination, the doctor in charge took one look at her from behind his desk and pronounced that she had not been raped! This year (2013-14) a group of foreign women met the SP with a petition that carried hundreds of signatures, requesting the authorities to act to protect female tourists from sexual harassment and worse.
So far this season there has been no reports of harassment or rape.
These tourists are more vulnerable because they are innocent enough to believe they are protected because they are in a holy place.
All tourists in whatever country are vulnerable to the bad elements in society because they must carry their money and passports on their person, may not be familiar with the language and local customs, and are easily exploited by landlords and other service providers.
This said, India is still a much safer place to visit for a foreign tourist than many European countries, or, indeed, the US.
The problem for foreigners in India is stereotyping and prejudice, rather than actual physical violence and rape.
Sometime i (sorry for small letter, trying to melt it down more) feel i love both value systems simultaneously sometime tend to hate them both because i strangely feellike why can’t both extremes of human mind respect the worth of another in a more evolved imagined society where they both can smoothly mutate into each other proudly if they feel uncomfortable with their particular system of life. However in conditional approach i prefer more disciplined and structured rigid relationship over mandane sensual oriented and less responsible one that is hindu prudeness over western brainwashed progressive ideals.
As I recall the interest started with protests not against rape, but against alleged failures by state authorities to report, investigate and prosecute rape. If those allegations are true, then that India has fewer reported rapes per capita than most nation does not in fact mean it has fewer actual rapes per capita. And that is why it is getting international media coverage.
Maria,
Allow me to follow the ‘KISS’principle(keep it simple stupid!).A study of Gopikrishna will indicate what happens when the Kundalini serpant uncoils.While we can say that Shankracharays Advaita
indicates One with the Absolute,Madhvacharyas Dwita is actually the same except that the Serpant is uncoiled.Sanathan Dharma’s ‘Way Of Life’would imply that in the theological ocean of Hinduism,the Gita’s central philosophy of non attachment duty would be central.Thus one who follows this Way Of Life is automatically Hindu irrespective of the lower level of ‘Religion’followed.Hinduism has two major offsprings,Philosophical and Ritualistic.Through the Centuries,whenever Hinduism degenerated due to stratification of caste,out of it’s womb sprang new Religions with rigid connotations.Caste was by inclination,hence choosing your Laxmi or Saraswathi path.Hinduism,Judaism,Islam all defend their Dharma.Christianity shows the other cheek.Thus Christ’s most imp msg was before he died.Islam is perfect,a rule for each situation with Wahabbis and Sufis at either end.One must thoroughly read and analyse and interpret correctly and objectively.Very few can do this.They instead follow half baked interpreters.Brahma the Big Bang,Vishnu the present universe,Shiva contraction.It’s not about Nation,Culture or Religion.It’s about as Johnny Nash put it’I can see clearly now,the rain has gone!’Perhaps’Flirt Schools’may educate and lessen Internet porn fantasies being acted out without female consent.Love Kojak
Hello kopterkojak,
I will not comment on Kundalini, because I view it as an experience and not thought.
Sanatana Dharma is more about “value system” rather than “way of life”, hence in Yoga : Yam, Niyam; These apply to all humanity irrespective of stratification.
Gita should not be restricted to terms like central philosophy, it is an all encompassing philosophy.
I hope you are using Sanatana Dharma and Hinduism synonymously. Any degeneracy can be negated by Divine Love(in a subjective sense; objectively even World Peace looks far,far away).
I am disappointed that Maria allowed:
“Hinduism,Judaism,Islam all defend their Dharma.Christianity shows the other cheek.”
Christ was asking us to personify the Divine Love. Do we dare?
I do not comment on Islam, I do not qualify.
We talk about Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva as persons. Brahma is creator, Shiva ensures expansion and contraction which I believe involves counting, Vishnu counts. Also it is very important to stress that differentiating Shiva and Vishnu is not easy.
Since it is Maria’s blog, I didn’t want to say the following. But your “flirt school” made me want to say this:
If we have to compare social indicators(rape-degeneracy factor), shouldn’t population be taken into consideration. It’s about the people, isn’t it? Can we compare India, China,Europe as whole, Americas as whole. It makes sense to me.
Solid marriage institution, sound family structure, national integration(Collectivism > Individualism; Individuality for spiritual salvation is fine by me although a blogger I admire says Karma Yoga is apt for our times) to prevent internal displacements and migrations, etc., are the need of the hour.
No Disrespect
The KISS Principle:Brahman is the Absolute,Yoga is tuning the body for Union with the Absolute.
Rest is Mythology,Concepts etc.Islam jumps direct to the Absolute(Allah),Hinduism as Vivekananda explains,has idols for focus of those who cannot understand the Absolute.Christianity has photos.Concentration through laser sharp focus in meditation opens the Pineal Channel?Is God Tachyonic light from other universes?
Rape is not about populations.It is about attitudes and mindset’s.Hence perhaps ‘Flirt Schools’may educate men to allow the woman always to decide.
Dear developing mind,
Posting comments does not mean I agree with them. Actually I thought someone would take it up. Thank you. I did not get down to it and frankly did not want to, as I found Kopterkojak?s comment confused and wondered what he actually wanted to convey and where he stands, more so, by bringing in Christianity and Islam as defending their Dharmas. Actually I prefer to keep it simple?Not intellectually convoluted. I know how it happened in the west so that we landed up where we have landed up. I wished, India does not need to make the same mistakes.
Incidentally, I had met Gopi Krishna before he died in 1985. For many years he was in big trouble after focusing intently on rising the kundalini. Ananadamayi Ma used to recommend Bhakti, as things can go wrong when the right attitude is missing.
Maria
Maria,
No confusion.Hinduism and Islam defend their Dharma,Christianity seeks salvation.Any of the philosophical systems can work.
Kopterkojak, I see a philosophical system only in HInduism, the other religions need indoctrination (or allurement or threat) for their flock to believe their ‘belief system’..
Hi Maria!
I don’t want to say anything more about what kopterkojak’s comments, because I am trying to understand his spiritual and philosophical points too. I don’t want to bring in what Francois Gautier has to say about Christianity in India(I have read your open letter to the Pope), because things will get too political. I don’t even use my real name because recently I was spammed by a well known Indian media house(Indian Media has FDI connection, so they cover up their bias with selective op-eds,free speech, editorial policy limits, etc.) with whom I registered. I don’t think they appreciated what I had to say or maybe the way I said it. So, I just closed that e-mail account. I am not even a confrontational person by nature. I think they just mistook me for a troll.
I agree with your point on Bhakti in principle.
Thanks
Maria, that’s the point I made,Way Of Life,not Religion,religion coming from it’s womb,Buddhism,Jainism,Sikhism,Arya Samajis.Prubhapada created Hare Krishna with Bhakti and a central Krishna like a central Jesus or Mohamed.Osho in many ways has defined ideal man as Zorba The Buddha
Good to read you’re continuing to produce articles that say, right or only partially right, what many others don’t look as deeply into. As an American journalist for 20 years, I see the rapes-in-India issue probably as simplistically as journalists there see it today. India is know by most people in the West as Gandhi, gurus, and “om.” So naturally rape is a sensational contrast to that. A news desk isn’t concerned with why or who else; any story reporting the unexpected is a read-me. Interpreting the news or putting it in context is for the op-ed page. I’ve lived in a conservative Indian fishing village for two years. Within visual distance of my house are the houses of a man who killed his wife (hushed up by neighbors), a molester (his grandson, also protected), and a chronic “Peeping Tom” (when he got in a fight with a priest he was finally sent to jail for awhile). Rampant alcoholism and Fetal Alcohol Syndrome are increasing and are behind a lot of the sick behavior we are seeing. The dowry system stands strong, continuing to impoverish families of the lower and middle classes and certainly not doing much to enhance the desirability of female children. No communal group wants to campaign against it. And so forth and so on …
Thank you for this reply to Wirth. Well written and balanced.
Western bodies like CIA attacks on a country use many tactics from covert funding of NGO’ to paying writers to promote a particular topic to attack a host country or even funding local media to the military. This seems a plausible reason for the India Rape stories. Classic is the Malala (girl shot by Taliban) story which was backed by US agencies as a soft weapon to fight Taliban.
Galadriel, you are out of touch with the widely pervasive negative narratives about India in the west, especially, US. Of course, they know about Gandhi, but nothing beyond that. Mostly the stereotype is about curry, caste, cows in the street, naked swamis, (some even stick to “rope trick” stories), child abuse, female infanticide, oppression of women/minorities, food deprivation etc.. In my 21 yrs in the US, throughout the university days (almost 7yrs), corporate days, my talks with most Americans (most were friendly and respectful and upon hearing counter narratives, apologized or accepted their ignorance) , even the most globally aware, I found gaping hole in their understanding of India. Thanks to Katherine Mayo and her book, “The Face of Mother India”(apparently influenced a generation of Americans and American policy-makers, according to Rajiv Malhotra), and countless leftist/Marxist Indologists in the western (and their Indian Sepoys) academic institutions, Hindu civilization has been painted as oppressive, backward and superstitious. And, that’s precisely what you hear. Hardly few acknowledge the tremendous instinct of Hindus to survive and protect their dharma during the millennium long onslaught by the Islamic invaders and European colonizers. The current problems in Indian society is not analyzed within the context of this history at all; the material poverty is a direct result of pillaging of the vast resources of this gloriously rich nation by the Turk/Islamic invaders and the white Europeans; Cultural onslaught by Jehadi perversion, missionary conversion, import of western knowledge systems without regard for its relevance in Dharmic context….so much distortion has taken place, it is incredible how this civilization is not already in the museum!
But, as Maria rightly says, these heinous crimes are taking place everywhere in the world. Misogynistic crimes, drugs, alcoholism are equally a problem in the west, despite its economic superiority and relatively smaller populations. US military has widespread abuse of women and is becoming a major issue; sexual abuse is rampant among the catholic clergy, alcoholism and drugs is quite endemic among students, homelessness is widespread (600,000 homeless people in this powerful country!), a million children are in homeless shelters and go to school from these shelters….problems in the US are plenty. And, it’s only the beginning. Lack of economic growth, burgeoning debt issues, weakening dollar hegemony, increasing population, anemic job growth, trillion student debt, increasing economic divide, rampaging prostitution and sexual perversion, alarming number of guns in the civil society…there are so many negatives. They are going to get worse, not better. Yet, US commands a positive grand narrative, as progressive, modern, liberal, free, innovative, hard working, entrepreneurial, great institutions, great athletes, exceptional people, people of manifest destiny….Everywhere the “soft power” of Hollywood to Harvard stand supreme. Even when many of my relatives and friends in India got a glimpse of poverty and filth during the Katrina disaster in New Orleans, it was quickly forgotten.
So, this is about grand narratives. There is a purpose behind it. Unfortunately, there is a drive to establish western universalism, an attempt to recolonize the world through cultural onslaught. It has geopolitical implications; it has a religious agenda (aggressive conversion by painting the host dharma as backward). Cultural domination will gain new converts who will favor the west in policy spheres. That will affect trade policies, industrial-defense complex etc. Gradually, India will lose its very civilization that was built on Dharmic concepts. Implications of grand narratives are deep and wide ranging. Only when you grasp the enormity of this game, will you understand why articles like Maria’s will become absolutely essential for Indians, as well as well-meaning, diversity-loving westerners like you. Thanks.
White House report says 1 in 5 American women have faced rape/attempted rape yet no cry made by White western Media on this issue
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/01/22/renewed-call-action-end-rape-and-sexual-assault
Hi Maria ji
I wholeheartedly agree with your article. But as a South Indian suburban mom I have a few problems with this can you please read this.
You are quite right about Hindu culture, Women are not sub par according to us. While Sita was praised for her Chastity Droupadi , the heroine of the other major epic in India (Mahabharatha) was polyandrous. She had five husbands ,yet her virtue was never questioned. Shakunthala , from mahabharatha , married Dushyantha of her own accord , it was not an arranged marriage.
Sathyavathi ,a fishermans daughter, who already had a son named Vyas, married Shanthanu, the king of Hasthinapura.
We were also leaps and bounds ahead of the west about gay and transgender rights. We worship Budhan, who is neither a male nor a female as the God of wisdom.
Shikandi, a transgender fought in the war of Kurukshetra. Our Lord Mahavishnu became a girl (Mohini) once and had a child with Lord Shiva.
So all in all Hindu culture is pretty liberal. But Indian society right now is not. Somehow we lost our identity, we borrowed the worst things from the west. And now women are suppressed by people who hold an ugly caricature of our real identity and shove it down our throats.
mam, as a middle class lady I am safe. But this safety is there because of the buffer of less economically and socially fortunate women. The drunkards and leers give us respect because they are scared of our dads/brothers/ husbands and also because they can leer at other unfortunate girls.
I so much want to wear a t shirt and sweatpants and go for a run on my own at dawn. (really this is my dream now).
I will not do that because it is not safe.( girls get dogs and go for walking in really posh areas).
Will I go out after dark alone? Not if I had any other option.
Will I expect to be leered at , hit on , leaned on if i take public transport. It happens to all women. We just learn to keep our heads down, not make eye contact and to be with a male companion.
Mam how can women do the same jobs as men if they are handicapped so much?
Now I will tell you the reason why i am writing this. A person called S.Gurumoorthy has translated your entire article verbatim( except the parts about other religions and gay people) and finally added his own agenda to it.
This is worse than the ignorant India bashers and willfull tarring of India culture. He used your NAME and WORDS to validate his agenda of suppressing women. This was published in a major Tamil Magazine called SNEGITHI, which has tremendous influence over our tamil society.
Let me translate what he added to your article to help you understand.
” West may have given rights to women , but we give respect to women. feminists argue that they will go with anyone, anywhere then how can society protect them. they must be in the view of society and follow its dictum to be safe. What happened in Delhi was in midnight( implication is the girl must not have been out at that hour), Mumbai was in a lonely area( what was she doing there alone).
Maharashtra state female commission member Asha MIrake said “Women must be careful and dress decently”. Media is asking how can they say like that. Do you understand now what kind of things feminists ask.
irresponsible rights to women not only reduce the respect for women but diminish their safety as well.”
Your sane article is used for this insane propaganda.
While I agree women need to follow common sense and be safe, we need to make the country safer rather than asking women to close themselves up and stay home. Not everyone can afford that.
Maam please please distance yourself from this propaganda. https://www.facebook.com/SnehidhiMagazine this is their FB id. Sorry i cannot find an email id.
Divya is correct.Once upon a time a bedecked woman could safely walk at night in Cal.Shankracharya defeated the equal 50% woman in debate.She and hubby became his chelas.He showed that woman was equal to man.Khajuraho shows the freedom of women.Tantra.Islam followed by Victorian prudery submerged the real culture.
My dear sister Divya
While I understand your year-long buried feelings of keep your self liberal from the the customs of this country which taught the civilization to the rest of the world, the country which worshiped woman as the supreme God and advised every one in this country to consider other women as Mother (including one’s wife too, at times- a different story). Pl. for the sake of this God blessed country, Do not insist anyone who come forward to whip the Western customs, traditions, their culture ( which is not suitable for this country, however those who want to follow may follow after migrate to their country.) While I appreciate your respect to this country’s women, I would like you to respect this sacred country’s highness too. Wearing decent dress, (men or women) does not mean against one’s liberty. don’t you agree? My best wishes to you!
Hi Divya,
It definitely is unfair that women are leered, groped etc in public and often have to hole themselves up at nighttime instead of going out. Freedom is a necessity. But if a person were to go to an area of a city, in any part of the world, that is bad in the middle of the night then that’s just asking for trouble. And dressing decently is good advice too. Have you seen what western women wear nowadays? That doesn’t mean you can’t look attractive.
And while I do disagree with Gurumoorthy, you should feel safe anywhere you go and the police should back you up. But people like Gurumoorthy are not worse than India bashing, culture bashing and gender bashing.
That’s why I don’t like the west’s portrayal of this horrible incident. Its all just negative and points fingers but does little else. Do they really want to help our women or do they just want to feel better about their own country and culture? Why would they think India bashing and men bashing would help? It will just create more divisions and hatred between us.
What needs to be done is to get rid of bad mouthing India and stop creating a gender divide. Men and women working together are needed to bring gender equality. Bad mouthing each other would make us want to help each other less. And its only by learning the lessons ourselves will we truly appreciate them. When we do have better gender equality people like Gurumoorthy will be laughed at. But all this foreign negativity will just create self hate and get us nowhere.
hi ewilli and Bhatt
i understand and completely agree with you.
There were incidents of tourists camping out in sambal valley and cried afoul when they were attacked. It enraged me when that incident was used for India bashing. Would i go walking in an American ghetto?no.
There are people who feel better about themselves by portraying us as uncultured rapists. I know of my billion brothers who respect women more than these people. But why do we have to care about them.
Why do we have to hush hush because of bigots? We have a problem lets discuss it. Lets not say that country rapes more women than ours.
My problem is why is there a discussion about women’s clothes when we are talking about rape? Isnt it victim blaming? Do you think only pretty women who is bedecked or someone who shows skin is only raped?
A little girl sleeping near her parents was snatched, raped , killed and hung naked in a tree. Do you really feel this will be solved if women add another layer of clothing? My grandma used to walk home from the river wearing only a wet skirt when she was young. She used to say ” it was common , no one looked at us bad and we never felt we must be ashamed”.
Brother these are not crimes of passion. These crimes are new and happens because of hatred against women.
Just open your eyes and see brother there are men who always felt they were superior to women just because they are men. Now we go out, earn and to an extent enjoy freedom. I feel this hatred everywhere. These are hate crimes. these creatures ( how can I call them men?) hate women and they feel powerful attacking them.
The people who say women need to be covered up in response to rapes are really dangerous brother. Think about it they are empathizing with the rapist instead of the victim.
All the men i know and am familiar with will not rape or violate a women if she walks before them naked. It is not normal human behavior.
The women haters use these rapes as an excuse to spread further hate on women saying this is the women’s fault. They ask us to curtail ourselves.
Can you believe in Afghanistan women used to wear western clothes and went to universities and held jobs. Now education is banned for girls over 8.
People try to bring in talibanesque and victorian culture in here. This is not us. Let us combat women haters and propaganda bigots in the bud itself.
RAPEOO AND RAPE
In Telegu rapeoo means tomorrow,perhaps tomorrow there won’t be such sorrow,
as rapes of innocent girls,women too.
Didn’t someone tell em they only owned one body,which was their own.
Even yoga says its a one way ticket to union,so ask for permission,if you even think of union.
It’s not about nations for the wise who know,just about permissions sometimes very slow.
And if she says a big big no no,just go away,join a flirt school and educate yourself some more!
Dear Divya ji
I agree with you the point you raised that instead of showing statistics of rapes in other country and claiming ourselves is far better, it is good to curtail any kind of violence against women. Full marks to you.
What makes me sad that you still did not understand the incident you expressed in you comments regarding your grandma’s experience from walking from river to home. Tell me Divya ji, what is the exposure of sex they had in those days? And what is now? Sex is known only after marriage (more clearly to both genders). That is the not case today. Children (I mean both genders) are exposed to this, very easily and vulgarly through, cinema media, press media, TV media, illegal books and most importantly in Internet (Ms. Maria would agree this). Have you ever blamed them? Being stuffed by these bad areas, one’s inner mind anxiously expect to experience this and one will naturally get elevated to lust in any minor chance he comes across, psychologically speaking.. Have you ever thought of these? It is not our responsible to suppress such feelings from the younger generation’s mind by the way we behave and wear decent cloths?
If asking any women in this country, whom we pray as ‘Parashakti’, is talibanesque you feel, we are not ashamed to be like that, in fact feel proud that some or other way, we are helping this great country as an example to the rest of the world.
We, as Women and Men together (forget about those creatures, as you say), will do all best effort to curtail all violence against women by the way of behaving, wearing decent clothes which best suitable this country, and preach the same to the next generation as a role model.
The choice is left to you Divya ji, to join or not. Best wishes!
Way back in 1999 I visited Punjab, India with my husband and his family. A family friend which we refer to him as Uncle warned us about going out to a Nightclub in Chandigarh. I was 29 at the time and my husband 33. A French foreign student was raped and because the suspects come from wealthy well connected families, they got off. So we followed their advice without incident. We left to travel to Singapore, Malaysia, Bali and returned to India when the weather warmed up.
What is the point Ms.CanadianPerspective? You want say, India not safe and rest of the world is safe?
My dear Ms Canadian,
1.Laws are tighter in the West.2.Laws are not implemented speedily here.
Only after Public hollering about the Delhi rape case,something was done.As I once explained to a Canadian Officer,most men have an eye for exotic women.Only the degree varies.In Canada,out of ten men,perhaps seven will know where to draw the line.In India maybe four.Anywhere in the world it is always good for women and men to have trusted local advisers.You were wise to be prudent.Regards Kopterkojak@utube/Soldier(LA Taxi Live).
Please see the comment further up dated 28. January by Adriana, obviously a British national, comparing India and Spain.
As long as level headed people like you are there Maria , Indians need not worry. We are almosr certain that there is an interntional agenda to malign India in all fiends to scuttle its growth globally. Indians have an unique character to take such slanders stoically which is their strength. As long as our faith in our religion , Hinduism remains strong , which it will, , these will ultimately prove pin pricks ; these wil end as matters of academic interest to psycologists and reasearchers!
‘@M Anand: “India is an incredibly unsafe country for women in general, particularly in the north”
Could you please give me the source of this information?
The last time I checked, there was hardly any difference between north and south India with respect to security of women. Also please don’t quote some opinion poll conducted by some magazine.
Reblogged this on smital viswambharan and commented:
did u ever hear the news of rape from other countries? even in pakistan leave about far off country… well rapes happening in india are heard across the globe… why?
“…signi?cant excess female mortality in childhood
everywhere except for the southern states (Kerala and Tamil
Nadu have particularly low numbers of missing girls).”
http://www.econ.nyu.edu/user/debraj/Papers/AndersonRayIndia.pdf
A society that supports the killing of it’s female infants/children has to have inherently low value (not just monetary) of women in society and protection thereof. I’m sure South Indian fathers (and some mothers) groan just the same when they give birth to a daughter VS a son, but they are surely not killing them AS MUCH as they are up north.
Apart from your critique of my comment, you have anything constructive to add to this debate?
I’m not a Ramayana or Hinduism scholar so i’ll admit defeat on that point, however, that is the predominant story that I heard growing up.
Unfortunately Maria, Maria’s (the author) alternate views don’t help India any. What this article does do is support the people that try to offset the blame or point fingers. It allows the bureaucrats to drag their feet in legislation. It gives the police an arguments as to why they shouldn’t try as hard.
Now I’m not saying that everyone in the society is of the same mindset, however, for the minority that are, this article is their salvo. When a child performs poorly, you do not accept from them, “well, that other kid performs poorly too”. You encourage them to study hard and independently succeed and not worry or pay attention to how others are doing. Furthermore, violence against women isn’t some kind competition to see who has the least. Just get your own damn numbers low!
Outsiders will always be critical, and westerners love to make the developed world look bad, I don’t know maybe to keep the money flowing to the West? SOME but few may have ulterior motives, but if we support the views of authors like Maria, then those lazy folks in charge have yet another reason not to enact change.
I agree that Indians should not be influenced by what westerners think of them, but heck when you have an intervention it’s usually brought on by a 3rd party. In this case it’s media shame, and frankly if the outcome is a safer India, what is wrong with that? The media isn’t proliferating some trivial issue here e.g. lack of deodorant-use or excess body odor or even skin color. They are talking about a very serious problem that if not dealt with by India as a whole, will result in a LOSS OF TOURIST INCOME. Tourism generated 6.6% of GDP in 2012 and employs millions of people. So fine, don’t care about global image, but do care about money that you use to feed your people.
If women stop travelling to India, which I’m sure the numbers already show, then what should India do? Tell people that they might get raped in Germany too, so come to India instead? That’s Maria’s argument. The solution is to fix the core problem.
BUT please don’t call her an eye-opener. If you’re stupid enough (my apologies) to get caught up in media hyperbole, that’s your own problem and Maria isn’t helping anyone at the end of the day.
Finally, until the problem is gets better, Indian journalist should feel free to write articles about rape going on everywhere else in the world.
“….And north India is often referred to as more violent, more patriarchal, and more crime-ridden than the south.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2013/01/03/a-rape-map-of-india/
I notice a condescending tone about the need of my constructive remarks on this topic. I’d like to point out that you don’t have to worry about this. The owner of this blog will take care of my comments if they don’t add value.
Why I insist on this particular point? Just like how this blog talks of how India as a whole is being unjustly pointed out for the rapes that are happening among many other worse nations. Similarly, on a smaller scale it is being played out inside India too. How you demonize north India compared to the south even though there is not much credibility to believe this bears testimony to this.
Your first proof talks about skewed sex ratios which is not directly related to the topic that is rapes. But even if you do want to discuss it, the complete sentence from that report is below,
“The southern states (Kerala, Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh)
have the lowest number of missing women and make up only
10% of the national total. The remaining bulk of the missing
women are distributed throughout the rest of the country. ”
First of the southern states doesn’t include karnataka, what about it?
Next, it clearly states compared to rest of the country so why would you particularly point out the northern states, why not the western and eastern states? Is it that anything apart from AP,TN and Kerala is northern states? Sure?
The second report you posted proves nothing. Its just the number of cases region wise in India. Why I say it proves nothing is because the population of the northern states is significantly higher than the southern states so if you take per 100000 people then there won’t be significant difference between north and south. Northern states are bigger than southern sates area wise as well as population density wise.
Here’s a more authentic map from the government,
http://ncrb.gov.in/CD-CII2012/CII%20Maps%202012-Final%20PDF/80%20Incidence%20of%20Crime%20against%20Women%20-%20Number%20-%20Total%20-%20Map.pdf
This map shows the numbers are pretty much the same whether the north or south. Again south has lower population.
I humbly request you to please not to spread false propaganda we already have 24 hours news channel for that.
refer above^^
whatever man, I really don’t care as much about north vs south as you clearly do. Did you even notice that my post was mostly about the problems in general? You have your own agenda and/or insecurities and you read what you want to read.
W/re: to your comment Maria’s article, unjustly? REALLY?!?! PLEASE go and tell that to the many women that are raped each year, “Maria says we should stop talking to the foreign media about our rape experience. We wouldn’t want India to look bad now would we? Lets quietly return India to its ancient value system” What’s funny is that this article is entirely contradictory, “Don’t care about what west says, but lets tell them they’re wrong for saying it”. If you don’t want to care about what the west says, then don’t care about what the west says!
It’s sad that you and Maria came online to defend the just portrayal of India instead of standing up for the just and humane treatment of women. Your defense of the north and support of this article makes me think that you care more about image than actual issues.
I did not arrive into the internet world yesterday. This is not the first time I have come across a random person subtly inserting a small remark about ‘north’ Indians that degenerates their morality and shows them in wrong light. YES I CARE about spreading wrong information. Everytime I come across such things I will give a fitting reply.
So easy for you to say that and now you meekly say that you don’t care about north and south, then WHY did you say it in the first place? How would you feel if I stereotype you for something you haven’t done. THIS IS A SERIOUS matter. You need to THINK why you uttered the word ‘north’ there? What made you do it? How you have been systematically programmed to be biased about the north without there being any significant reason for it? THIS BLOG is discussing this issue and not RAPE in general.
THIS blog is not about discussing how horrible the crime of rape is, please don’t get all emotional and say people don’t care about rape. I acknowledge rape is a horrible crime BUT this blog is not discussing rape rather its discussing about the negative PR that is being churned out by external force for their vested interests (read the title of the blog again, if required). It is a reality today that a lot of background work goes into creating false propaganda. You need to have an open mind and ask WHY before you blindly nod your head to whatever is dished out in the news. Rape is a problem in India but its being over hyped just like north India being a dangerous place for women is over hyped, which you happily bought as a fact and started spreading it without even realizing how unfair it is. All this is done to polarize Indians based on every possible means, in this case regionalism.
All of this started when the fake historians introduced the fake Aryan invasion theory in India. North indians were labelled as aryans and the south indians as dravidians and apparently they was a war between the two!! Today this fake theory has been debunked after the discovery of the dried of saraswati river bed (which the fake historians called as a mythical river!!) and also the DNA studies. This is also propoganda that induces hate between Indians who are all brothers of the same India gene pool.
search on youtube, “fake aryan invasion theory’. Similarly these new versions of Sita being raped etc were injected for hindus to feel ashamed of themselves and submit to their new masters. Indian history in general has been twisted to suit the needs of people and this process continues today using media.
BTW incase I find someone talking wrong about south Indians then I will defend them too, like I have done in the past. Just for your information.
‘@ Prateen. I’m not here to talk about north vs south, seriously, despite my solitary comment that you can’t seem to get over, I’m not. Anyone reading these comments will see not only your crazy overreaction on the internet but also your conspiracy theories on my statement. If you’re so concerned about spreading untruths, then go talk to institutions like the WSJ, since they wrote about what I had already inferred from empirical evidence. Then again, most people reading this article would probably agree with you anyways and think I’m in the wrong, so congrats.
We’re on the same exact page re: Aryan vs. Dravidian so I won’t argue there.
But negative PR? Come on?!? Things are a lot simpler than that. This is not west vs. India. It’s the news cycle looking for a good story! Western paper editors aren’t sitting around looking for ways to bring India down. Governments are not telling the papers to find articles to make India look bad. She keeps asking, “Why?”. The answer is simply money. More people read extreme articles. That’s how they stay alive. I think most major news is pretty piss poor because of that. They should take more responsibility on what and how they cover news. But to call it some Western conspiracy just lets the politicians drag their feet. I mostly hate media overcoverage, but i make an exception in this case. Let the media shame the politicians into improving things.
What else will encourage them to enact serious change, I ask?
Really nice article. I agree that rape is big problem in our country but thinking India as most unsafe for women is wrong. Problem is even most Indians think like this and they put all blame on Indian traditions and culture. I feel bad when they try to compare it with other countries thinking other countries are ideal place to live, without doing any research. I was just checking the stats for rape crimes and according the UN and other stats, number of rape cases in US is much greater than India and in UK its almost same as in India. I don’t know why other countries focus on negative side of India or is it some conspiracy but whatever they are doing looks like they are succeeding to some level by creating bad image of Indian culture in mind of many countrymen.
It is the result of vested interests coming initially from the West, most of them, like different streams with connections within India, and with the aim of Breaking India (as they have already broken and destroyed so many cultures), Once again the same policy of divide and rule. A must read the book “Breaking India” but Mr. Rajiv Malhotra, and all his books to know what is going on. Plenty of proven facts and data.
Christians and Muslims have traditionally used rape as a tool of war.
umm….LOL As a CHRISTIAN My God would be dissapointed in me if i even considered hurting someone purposely mentally or physically. lol till then it was okay this hows the person really doesnt have a straight facts LOL
man i wish some hindus would respect other people as much as we respect them…try doin that then ul see the world as a better place God bless you
Thanks for writing this post and making people aware on the hidden agenda behind “another rape in India”. I loved your article.
Thank you for your post ma’am.
Hope this brings some perspective in both convinced indians and biased outsiders.
Yes. India is less safe. It’s not subjective. It’s an objective observation made by almost every single person who has ever visited the country as well as women from India. Stop apologizing for rape and stop pretending like India is great. There is a reason why millions are leaving your filthy country.
Listen Mr.Ustad, you are declaring the statement as if you are holding some high level govt. post in India or you are in Media where you gained some concrete statistical info. On behalf rest of my fellow Indians, let me warn you to control your tongue. Never provoke anybody by using degrade words like one you used in your comments. May be you are from PAK or BANG,, and we respect your country, it does not mean you can talk anything you want to, against any country by sitting safely in your country. That is the culture your country has taught you. Be aware that as you said your comments that millions of people leave our country, is absolutely untrue and never ever propagate such false allegations.
Christians respecting Hindus? please don’t write nonsense. your ideology condemns them to eternal hell, if they have heard of Jesus and still don’t convert…
the less someone believes in dogmatic religion, the better a human being he is likely to be. no doubt, there are nice Christians, but they usually don’t believe all that what the Churches want them to believe.
And Hindu doctrine condemns Christians to eternal rebirths which is likened to hell. What is your point? The beliefs of a particular religion religion have little to do with whether or not the people in the religion respect each other.
I’d say Christians feeding a large portion of the Hindi population is more respectful than Hindus wanting to forcibly remove Christians from India as well as killing tens of thousands of Christians. But, maybe that’s my stupid morality speaking.
‘@Ustad: From the kind of disgust that is emanating from your comments for India, its obvious which country and religion you come from.So what do you have to say to this (read below)?
Some newspaper titles (about Pakistan) from 2010:
‘5 killed in grenade attack on church in Islamabad’
‘6 dead in Pakistan Christian school attack’
‘3 killed in Christmas attack on church’
’16 Killed in Attack on Church in Pakistan’
‘Pakistani Worshippers Attacked on Easter Sunday’
‘Pakistani Christian-Falsely Accused, Tortured and Murdered Protestors Take His Dead Body To The Streets In Protest’
‘Pakistani Priest Gunned Down’
‘Pakistani Christian dies of torture at hands of Islamists’
‘Second Pakistani Christian tortured to death by police in four months’
’55 year Christian mother Hanifan Bibi abducted, stripped and tortured in front of husband and sons by Muslim gangsters’
‘Pastor and Driver Murdered in Pakistan and mutilated for Evangelizing Muslims in Pakistan’
‘2500 Strong Muslim Mob set alight 3 Churches, Christian School, Houses of Christian families and Priests’
‘Hindu temple in Lahore demolished’
‘Pak Army To Raze Hindu Houses, Temple In Peshawar’
‘242 Hindu Temples Destroyed/Damaged in Pakistan’
‘Muslim Terrorists killed Christian Missionary, Raped their daughters in front of parents and brutally killed their Sons’
‘Drunken Muslim Mob Vandalizes Church’
‘2 Christians get 15 years for burning Holy Quran’
‘Pakistan Bomb That Killed 53 Aimed to Destroy Hotel’
‘One Woman Dead in Attack on Christians, Would-be rapist instigates attack in response to charges leveled against him’
‘Taliban Tells Pakistani Christians: Convert or Die’
‘Muslims Ransack Historic Church’
‘Taliban-Inspired Attacks Hit Christians, Jizye Tax Imposed’
‘Muslim Mob Beats Christian Family with Sticks for Marrying Muslim Girl’
‘Christian Brutally Clubbed to Death for Drinking Tea at ‘Muslim-Only’ Establishment’
‘Muslim Forces 12-year-old Girl to Convert & Marry Him, Police ridicule Christian mother for kidnapping complaint’
‘Church institutions threatened with bomb attack, Unless Christians Convert’
’11-year-old boy shot in the head while attending church’
‘Parcel Bomb Critically Injures At least 10 Christians in Pakistan’
‘Christian Cemetery Bulldozed & Church Building Confiscated by Pakistani Authorities’
‘Police Torture & Brake Backbone of Christian Because His Father Preached Christ, Denied Medical Treatment’
‘Battagram Hindus Told to Embrace Islam or Pay Tax’
‘Muslim Mob of Thousands Gather. Acid thrown on Christian Women & Children’
‘Hundred Christian Churches & Homes Burned Down’
’16-Year-Old Christian Boy Tortured to Death by Pakistani Police’
‘Christian Tortured and Beaten for Alleged ‘Blasphemy’ & Prison Besieged by Thousands of Furious Muslims, Calling For His Death’
‘Police Brutalize Christian Men & Women After Robbing Their Homes’
‘Muslims Loot & Burn 75 Christian Homes and 2 Churches, Over Alleged ‘Blasphemy”
‘Eight Christians (including 4 Women & Child Aged 7) burned alive in Punjab, 20 Others Wounded’
‘Angry Muslims Kill Three More over Alleged Qur’an Blasphemy’
‘Muslim Mob Attacks Home of 60-Year-Old Woman in Another Islamic Supremacist ?Blasphemy? Charge’
‘Pregnant Christian Miscarries, After being Beaten & Dragged Naked Through a Police Station’
‘Eight Christians kidnapped in Pakistan, Jizya May be Behind Abductions’
‘Six Christians Shot Dead by Muslims After Threats to ?Convert to Islam or Die?’
‘5,000 Hindus Abandon Homes to Flee Forced Conversions, Kidnappings & Rape’
‘Church Burned to the Ground by Muslim Mob’?
I’m not a porkistani ,dumb ass. And yes, filthy pakis also kill Christians. What is your point? You guys are the same race. The same habits and behaviors.
Typical desi thinking is “they do it too!!!” like little children.
From the kind of language you use, who is childish and immature is anyone’s guess.
How old are you 14 or 15? may be even less. lol
Well if you are not pakistani then you are a muslim/christian living in India who despises everything Indian.
“Hindus wanting to forcibly remove Christians from India as well as killing tens of thousands of Christians”
Before you run your filthy mouth all over the place, provide some proof of the above statement you made. I hope you are not pulling these figures out from your rear end.
Not sure if you read what I wrote since I didn’t provide any figures of any kind. But, you are free to use google to ascertain the facts about Christians being killed in India. And no I’m not Indian, nor am I Christian, but if I were would that make any difference?
Are you serious? You say hindus kill tens of thousands of christians.
This is a a FIGURE you have provided. Now you are NOT SURE? wow.
You want me to google this rubbish you type?
Next time before you type down bullshit like this about killings that never happened make sure you can back it up with some reports else refrain from spreading garbage.
Oh I know what you are! You are a troll.
Well, I just googled it. Lots of links. Lots of info. Denial and really odd and immature scoffing won’t make facts disappear.
LOL lots of links? and I can’t find one. hehe. May be you live in a different planet.
I guess I was right, you were indeed pulling them (mass killing of christians in India) out of your rear end.
Now all your comments can be safely called rubbish.
There were over 42 million results when I searched it. Maybe you’re not familiar with how to operate google. More likely you’re just extremely dishonest. Below is a starting point if you want to apply a little intellectual integrity instead of a dogmatic pro-Hindu bias.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/holy-war-strikes-in-india-35-christians-killed-and-50000-forced-from-their-homes-28481626.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILc7wdhst1Y
http://christianpersecutionindia.blogspot.com/
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Orissa:-thousands-of-refugees-and-new-victims,-massacre-of-Christians-continues-13093.html
http://www.christianpost.com/news/thousands-of-christians-flee-from-violence-in-india-34044/
‘@Ustad: When you talk about others’ civilization and culture, see at yours first. From where you people have come from and how you people were living? What is the history you have? What is the richness of language and culture you have?
I admit, there were some rapes happened in India on Indians and may be of some foreigners, but this kind of people (rapists) are found in everywhere in the World (US and Europe are high in this regard) and we are not supporting either (even in your Africa).
I feel really sorry to for those victims, but what to be done now is, not to happen such scenes in future. How globally we can control or prevent these things? Have you ever thought such constructive ways? Not doing these, why are you spilling hatred words on somebody or some country?
this entire comments thread and most of the article is blaming everyone except for Indians for their rape and claiming that there is no problem but rather a western conspiracy to tarnish the image of the “pure race.”
When school shootings happened in USA, did anyone ask why India was reporting it? No. We don’t care if you report on bad things that happen here.
As for USA and Europe, you should look into WHO is raping in these countries. In USA rape is committed in a highly disproportionate manner by everyone except the white Europeans. Mainly it is people of African descent but most non-Europeans are overrepresented. Even Indians, Pakistanis and other South Asians are often caught raping our women. Yet, you will almost never ever hear of a European raping one of your women.
Even during the British Raj, rape against British women was so prevalent that there were laws in place especially to protect their women.
These issues aren’t about quality. All cultures, races and ethnicities have good and bad. The issue is quantity. We don’t all commit these crimes in the same proportions. Ask yourself why millions of Indians leave India but almost no Europeans want to live in foreign lands. Ask yourself why even your women are more safe in our presence than your own.
India needs less excuses and more introspection. A bit of positive eugenics wouldn’t hurt either.
Ustad,
please inform yourself also about the background of the Odisha riots and don?t just take the Christian viewpoint for the truth. Unfortunately, media power is with the west and the Hindu side is not highlighted, not even by mainstream Indian media which is heavily western influenced.
I am certain that Hindus are the most peaceful people compared to Christians and Muslims. Just look at history, including recent one. If they become violent, they almost always have been gravely provoked. Their upbringing does not include despising others only because they believe something different.
Even regarding rapes, if there was a religions- wise break up done, I am sure, Hindus would still have the least crime rate, even though many Indians with Hindu names are not following Hindu tradition anymore and of course among them there are also depraved individuals.
Dear Divya!
you really need to revive your knowledge about our ancient stories. Infact a big part of India is suffering from post feminist syndrome. We as women need to draw a line what is decent limit to expand, our rich scriptures gave freedom to women but at the same time, not to loose virtue,
Some of the stories you posted from scriptures are the poisoned one by britishers, intact most indians know only these version, so hereby i request you to visit’ Ajit Vadakayil” ‘s blog, not only you will find true version, you will be more proud of being an Indian women. And i m 100% in agreement with Maria, If she hadn’t had written, i would had cover this topic later or sooner. I live outside india and i understand what maria exactly mean.
Indian media shows a lot of other things too, happening in USA besides gun shooting. i live in america and my family in India got the useless news about USA which I have not heard yet, their dog, cat, pet, blah blah. and in India if something big happen like Bomb blast, they will cover it for 20 sec and done. And this rape news not highlighted by just one country, it was mis deed of our foreign funded media that made it viral. There is no harm in telecasting it but what good foreigners did in that context besides criticizing and blaming our culture.
Mr Ustad, i ask you a simple question if in your home you face some problem, will you go on streets and shout and tell what your family members are up to? No a sensible man will try to resolve it within. thats the whole point, if you consider your country as your mother and its citizens your family, you would had never raised a finger on Maria’s article.
Mariaji, I am a devout Hindu but I will not say that publicity western media is giving to rapes in India is baseless. There is a problem and the patriarchal sexist mindsets of the general masses (esply concentrated in the states surrounding Delhi) who today are brought up on a daily diet of sexist crude entertainment and complete lack of sanskaar, needs to change. Education and aggresive media campaigns is the only way forward, I would like to see an India where not a single rape happens and our women will be free to travel alone anywhere in the country after sunset
Hello Maria ! I am a resident of a mid-sized city in India. I am an architect by qualification and I have grown up in a typical middle-class cosmopolitan neighborhood. My work takes me to the rural parts of India off and on.
I read your articles here and elsewhere including the one shared by Dr. Subramaniam Swamy.. Though I am really impressed with the depth of your understanding of Hinduism, I am really disappointed by the utter and complete dismissal of a holistic Indian society that is multicultural and one that houses different faiths.
Hindus make about 15% of the world’s population or nearly 1100 million people. Nothing can be generalized about a population of this size. Hindu faith has consistently grown and flourished even in recent decades in the midst of a widespread “conversion” agenda. And while there are areas of conflict between Hindus and other religions especially Muslims, this rivalry does not define who Indians are. It is absolutely clear from your articles that you do not make much of the Christianity and Islam. I am no expert on theology so I cannot argue on their belief system or their religious outlook towards other faiths. But what I do know is that Christians and Muslims put together make 55% of world’s population. Presuming more than half the world is following the wrong religion does not feel so right, does it ?
Society is a complex agglomerate and always has naturally occurring chasms. More often than not these are on religious lines but when you look closer these divides are not as conspicuous as those along the lines of economic status or access to the world’s resources.
There has always been a section of the Hindus who feel that India should a Hindu nation and that other religions are encroaching upon our motherland. I am disappointed to say that your articles seem to endorse this ideology. To me this is another dogma.
Shashwat
Frankly, I wished those with no experience of dogmatic religions would not take up the cause for those relgions. Just look at history. Look at the present situation. Do those religions allow others to flourish?
Look how I described in short the Christian ?belief system? and see whether you want to encourage anyone to believe these stories.
The majority can be wrong, especially when it had to be forced into the belief system in the first place, which happened with those religions. Now, since Christianity has no blasphemy law in place anymore due to secularism, people are leaving in droves. In Germany alone in the last 150 years (only since then it is possible to leave the Church) some 30 per cent have become atheists (which is not the best solution either).
If you find time please read http://mariawirthblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/is-hinduism-a-religion/
It may clarify some issues.
Your article started with defending India and ended with defending Hindus.
Maria, Western media is led by American media, which caters to a public that that has a rather meagre education and can only understand other cultures through a cartoonish characterization, which is also reflected in a protectionist stance toward newer immigrant communities in the U.S. Also, in the circumstance that another country can easily become an enemy in the endless push toward greater economic imperialism, it’s useful to inflame traditional xenophobia at home. Making out that India is the home of rape both explains away the protests and revision of laws, while never mentioning that the laws that enabled rape date from British rule, and also lets the American rape culture off the hook, since there are no comparable protests here.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
“while never mentioning that the laws that enabled rape date from British rule, and also lets the American rape culture off the hook, since there are no comparable protests here.”
The British had to have separate laws to protect themselves from the severe amount of rape against them in India.
“severe amount of rape against them (Imperial British) in India.”
So you won’t stop this now, will you?
You pulled out another ‘piece of information’ from your rear!
Debating involves giving sources for any information you may puke out in public forums.
How about I say, “Mr. Ustad is a serial rapist” and when confronted by Mr. Ustad I will say, “You can go google it”.
LOL
So there were 42 millions hits and all you could post it 3 news pieces and ALL of them talk about the SAME incident in Orissa about 10 to 20 people ?? WOW!
Also know the background of those incidents before commenting.
So next time instead of saying tens of thousands of christians make sure the numbers are right.
I hope you are good at maths.
Just because I haven’t given sources doesn’t mean I can’t. Indians aren’t capable of rational debate so I don’t really try very hard when talking with them. And yes, if you fail to not only search yourself but also to believe in anything that suits your own desires, that is your own fault.
Do you see a single link to any source of info whatsoever other than in my comments? I don’t.
Its amazing how you said a billion people aren’t capable of rational debate. First check if that statement of yours is rational !!
I don’t see anybody making tall claims of mass murders of people and rapes that haven’t happened EXCEPT you, so obviously, you need to present the source of this mysterious information.
Wonderful writing, Maria. Wonderful. It is a credit to India that you have made her your home. We are very happy that you have made India your home. To get people like you, sometimes we also have to let in people who are not all that wholesome. What to do? To have one like you, we are prepared to tolerate a dozen of the other idiots.
‘@ SHASHWAT
– ?Christians and Muslims put together make 55% of world?s population. Presuming more than half the world is following the wrong religion does not feel so right, does it?-
Yes, it does. Both are blood thirsty, vicious religion with a history of genocide throughout the whole world. Ever bothered to find out how so many millions Muslims exist in Indian subcontinent? How many Hindus were massacred for defiance? Have you ever read any Indian history? Muslims did not apply tender love to convert Hindus, they used swords.
You claim, you are not an expert on theology, yet have the temerity to correct Maria?s reflection and scrutiny, – Preposterous. The mere number of followers is not a qualifying barometer to be the desirable religion. The writing is on the wall, any blind can see it.
You may have read architecture, as far as history & theology is concerned, just an apprentice. Maria and a millions more Hindus (-You) are asserting loud and clear, India is better off being a Hindu nation state. You can be as disappointed as you like, no one gives a toss.
An ignorant man is living in a cuckoo land.
India = Hindustan & synonymous with Hindus- and not a Porkistan
Any more clever question?
Why Rape Seems Worse in India Than Everywhere Else (but Actually Isn?t): Read
http://world.time.com/2013/11/08/why-rape-seems-worse-in-india-than-everywhere-else-but-actually-isnt/
I have to thank you for bringing out this subject to the public.This had been how ever going on for centuries and I am least surprised that we have survived this cultural genocide attempts up to today thanks to our ancestors who have laid down their lives for people like us to be able to sit here and type our opinions freely.It was not us who built this sacred Civilization,but the sacrifices of those who came before us.This Great Civilization was built upon their blood,sweat and tear.Even when they bled for us they believed that their next generations would remember their sacrifices and protect it from the invaders.So to all those insulting Indian culture,please don’t do so,because it was built out of the blood of many a brave son’s and daughters and son or daughter of this country cannot tolerate it.
I have see organizations like The UN condemning India for rapes but have never seen em condemn any violence committed on Hindus in India or else where.Now for those who say it’s communal to s term Hindu’s and their plight,I would like to point out that other communities also pin point their plight,how come it is never communal and only Hindus talking about Hindu genocide is communal?
And finally as far as the western view point of Indians is concerned,Just look at what is happening to the Romani people in Europe and check out their history.Just because they migrated from India to Europe centuries ago and has an Indian link makes many a people in Europe demanding them to be send back India.Also should check up Romani persecution by Hitler.and the persecution they suffered from times of their arrival in Europe.How do you expect such poor innocent souls to integrate after what they have gone through.
Secularism when Hindus are majority and the moment they become a minority the persecution begins,haven’t this been the case all the time when Hindus have become a minority in any place whether it be in India or out side India?I read some comment before that clothes should not be brought into context and isn’t it victim blaming.I have to ask you is it victim blaming if both men and women are asked to wear traditional dress?I believe dress is part of our culture and i do not believe that it would be possible to preserve or protect our culture by skipping any part of our culture.When Gandhiji boycotted goods he wasn’t selective was he?and we do know that today Hindu value system remains mixed with other cultures values in our society and thus how can you blame Hindu culture and call it rape culture?
West have targeted Indian culture through education by giving western education but some how we survived it.Now at last they realize that Indian women are the pillars that hold these civilization together and wants to turn them and many our brothers also against us to wipe out our civilization permanently and make the Indian Hindu culture a museum material like say for instance The Greek civilization.Our only hope are people like the author and many of our patriotic brothers and sisters upon whose shoulders now the great responsibility of protection of our civilization rests.
Jai Hind!
‘@ Sacred Saffron:
Well, one way I admit your intention of saving this great religion. I am a true follower of the so called Hinduism (the Santana Dharma), did not worry. as you, so far and would not in future too. Do you know why?
Sanatana Dharma was not initiated by one person like Md. Nabi or Jesus, nor it imposed any strict law to adhere to. Thousand of years it was evolved with time to time and enriched/enhanced. However, it always advised to the practitioners of Sanatana Dharma that what is good and what is bad and gave freedom to analyze oneself instead of insisting. It is also allowed to reject it without any precondition. With the Karma you did, you would have the fruits based on it. Nor it says to worship God as mandatory, but doing so, would not give you rebirth, it emphasized as and where. The only thing, as a true Hindu, all we have to do is, do our Karma with righteous way and continue to be practitioner of Hindu traditions and rituals wherever possible in a correct form.
I believe this would keep this Dharma intact for thousands of years to come. What is lacking now is, enhance, enrich and extend to another generation of our traditions and rituals. Lets be strictly adhere to this and rest will take care of itself.
As our ancestors said:
?Dharma eva hato hanti; Dharmo rakshati rakshitah? (One who destroys Dharma is destroyed by Dharma/ One who protects Dharma is protected by Dharma).
And let me complete with this,
“lokah samastah sukhino bhavantu”
I loved your comment and the way you think..You are a true Hindu…You know what our Dharma is truly :)Thank you…
Thanks Saileena for understanding!
According to the National Crime Records Bureau 2013 annual report, 24,923 rape cases were reported across India in 2012. Out of these, 24,470 were committed by relative or neighbor; in other words, the victim knew the alleged rapist in 98 per cent of the cases.
So this makes it 2000 Rapes per month. These are statistics of reported rape. 90% rapes in India are unreported.
The definition of rape in India has an Exception. ?? ‘Sexual intercourse by a man with his own wife, the wife not being under fifteen years of age, is not rape.’ So these stats do not include marital rapes Otherwise figures will be 10 times higher.
I do not like to compare situation of this country to another country. If someone says that rape is an epidemic in India, I do not see as comparison to the rest of the world.
I read your article in one Hindu forum as it appeared as search result for ‘world media on rapes in India.’
Ethics have always been illusive as far as India is considered. Indian society has always been violent however extraordinarily non-violent the ethics be. Marriage has always been part of Indian society and marriage has always been based on ‘spouse as a property.’ I do not judge religions by what is written in their scriptures and what they teach. I judge them by how the preachers and the preached behave. If we keep our eyes open, we easily see that.
Thank you.
‘@Priyodit Sharma: From your writing, I can’t understand whether you are defending or offending, however, your Stats are make us aware and alert of such incidents. If you judge any religion by their preachers or the preached behaviour, probably you will end up with disappointment always, everyday. No religion, especially our Hinduism, preaches to hate any or misbehave or cruel to any. All those study Engineering are coming out as Engineers, but are the same in talent? What’s is your in-take is all that matters.
Don’t just read or see Hinduism as religion, you have to practice in your every part of life.
All those rapists parents were bad in behaviour?
Will children of these rapists become bad to this society like their father?
When one sees women as another human being, all problems end there. When one sees women as enjoying material, everything collapses. In our Sanatana Dharma, Women were (are) utmost controlling power, be it family, politics, social life, or even spiritual. Then where we lost our way?
All these happened after other foreign invasion took on this country. Our culture changed, modified, altered, to be frank, destroyed at several extent. We, as Hindu, also responsible by allowing others to modify our culture. Nobody can destroy us until we allow them to do so. Let’s accept this and come out of the crazyness of other culture. You also agree that our Sanatana Dharma, our culture, our traditions, our (old) education system were rich enough for this country people. Accept modern science does not mean accept foreign culture and tradition.
I can write a lot more about this, but time and space matter here. All the best Priyodit.
– Canchi Sistla Balaji Sharma
Really rapes in india is cause of loose law and punishment system.
Media is fooling on rape news…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#India Adjusted for population growth over time, the annual rape rate in India has increased from 1.9 to 2.0 per 100,000 people over 2008-2012 period, which is quite low. This compares to a reported rape rate of 1.2 per 100,000 in Japan, 3.6 per 100,000 in Morocco, 4.6 rapes per 100,000 in Bahrain, 12.3 per 100,000 in Mexico, 24.1 per 100,000 in United Kingdom, 28.6 per 100,000 in United States, 66.5 per 100,000 in Sweden, and world’s highest rate of 114.9 rapes per 100,000 in South Africa.[123][28]
I’m sad that author chose to disclose the name of the Delhi rape victim. Protecting victims identity is a moral decency that I guess is followed both in west and east.
‘@Mangala, the rape victim’s name is no secret. Her parents released it after her death. Still, i used only the first name
informative article. the way data is presented is touching
Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self-sustained.
-Mahatma Gandhi
This Western anti-India, anti-Indian culture diatribe won’t work for long – none other than the majority community of India (Hindus) came out in millions to protest against rape – no other community on the planet had such an overwhelming response to rape in their countries of dominance.
As per national crimbe record bureau Govt. Of india
The conviction ratio has gone down drastically
Most amount of tapes happening in new delhi capital of indian and metro the most secured place in india is delhi after j&k
Only by the statement of women anyome ks arrested n sent to jail
75% of rape cases are aquittals n false
85% of #498a dowry cases are aquittals and false
98.2 % of domestic violence cases are aquittals and false
1.66 lac men suicide vs 90k women in india
in a tier 3 c group city like jabalpur in Madhya pradesh in india nearly 4500 men have chosen calibasy n living like nomads near by river ganga as scared of false alligatiins n cases.
Global geminist agenda will fail in india and is failing very soon people will know the reality
Just like rape, another way the Asian countries are being attacked is, gendercide. Many NGO’s are propagating fake statistics just to shame those nations http://lifenstory.com/stop_male_female_foeticide
Reblogged this on fightforlifeblog.
That is strange statement. From all accounts it was the British who exploited India, not the way round. On the contrary, it was the British who exploited Indian women, they had a hedonistic lifestyle of Wine and women. The British would have murdered a few villages if even one English woman was raped. So, really where do your insinuations come from?
In Indian History, one should say Hindu history, we look at misbehavior with women as a really low down crime, as something only the brute would do, especially with reference to the Aryans and Aryan way of thinking which incidentally means ‘The Noble Path’. And due to this reason from amongst others, in India there were protests which does not happen in any other part of the world.
The protest for the Girl named ‘Jyoti’ by Maria Wirth or ‘Nirbhaya’ by our media had other reasons to it as well, such as it happened in the posh Southern locality of Delhi, in a time when people were really tired of the Government and were looking to be rid of the Govt, the rape and brutality of the rapists, the fact that most Indians are sexually not promiscuous, virginity for a girl and fidelity in marriage both have great importance to Indians and so on. So in some part, the rape incident became an opportunity for the people to protest the Government, which was actually a major reason behind the enormous unrest and protest. Most people in the world probably do not know this but the then Indian Congress led Government eventually sent the Girl to Singapore to be treated, despite the fact that we have all facilities in India, because they feared that there would be massive unrest if she died in India. The poor girl eventually died in Singapore, her body was flown back to India without letting the press and the people get even a tiny scent of her arrival and she was quickly & very quietly cremated in the presence of her parents without letting the people know about it. Such was the fear of the Government.
Incidentally, South Africa is the rape capital of the world where one in every two women has been raped. In India, rape crimes are relatively much lower in number vs population as compared to US, Sweden, etc.
Also,I would add that the High number of Rapes in Sweden are attributed to the Muslim population there and not so much due to the white males. Swedish women have taken to dyeing there hair black as a blonde is more likely to be raped by the immigrant Muslims.
The Hindu tradition has always treated its women very well, in sharp contrast to negative views, our women have had lots of freedom and the possibility to do many things. Even in Mughal-British times, we have had women like (Queen) Rani of Jhansi, and Maharani Ahilya Bai Holkar, a warrior and a state head, while in ancient times there are endless examples.
There is another main reason for focusing India – COMMERCIAL VALUE.
Certain news articles have more money value than others. Take this post for example, has any other article on your blog received these many comments? I’m sure this also gets a lot of hits. Please an ad on this page and you can make a decent amount just by writing about “rape and India”.
This is precisely the strategy of news media, when rape is reported on Indian newpapapers all news on achievements (and other things to be proud of) go to the middle pages and one can find ads on real estate and Rolex watches on the front page.
Moreover rape in metropolitan cities like Delhi and Mumbai and reported with so much of enthusiasm while similar violence in villages go to the middle pages in the form of an one inch article featured only on one day.
A clarification here, the same applies strongly to men also. If you’ve seen the movie “3 idiots” you’ll understand better. A man cannot independently choose his career and he is always compared with his peers on the basis of his salary and qualification. After marriage if he listens to his wife he is a “parent abandor/disrespecter” while listening to his mom make him a mama’s boy. I can write an entire book on the problems faced by men.
And 99% of Indians who talk and police others about “Indian culture” are actually following the age old Victorian era’s culture. The REAL Indian culture is much more liberating in terms of dressing and sexuality, this is highly evident from the statues in many Indian temples.
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Dear Maria…
Please provide us with a reference from holy Quran and holy Bible which backs your statement ” Christians and Muslims have traditionally used rape as a tool of war. For them, the ?other? was never worthy of any consideration and could be brutally raped and killed never mind if they were civilians.”
I appreciate your understanding about Hinduism but to prove it right and appropriate, you don’t require to condemn other religions. Request you to study others theology equally before concluding anything, especially when people of different culture and ideologies are following. .. u lay this burden.
Secondly please do not underestimate Indians, we are very well aware of our values and heritages. And we don’t have to chant mantras and yogs to proves our sincerity towards our country and religion.
And there is no wrong if we have started raising our voices against any crime, here RAPE, no matter the percentage is lower than other, this proves our superiority of. Values as our reputation is not dependant on other’s view. Yes media does hype such incident but it is shown when it exists. .. closing our eyes or ignoring the issue won’t solve our problem standing tall for right will.
lastly, kindly stop dividing us on the basis of religion because we have lots of issues to resolve and we don’t want to get stuck to communal debate, it has no end but it stops other initiative and developments
Dear Indian,
My Friend! What you lack in knowledge, you make up in self righteousness.
Are you familiar with the Life of Prophet Muhammad? Are you aware of the violence he wreaked on non-muslims? Further, are you aware that Muhammad’s life is considered worthy of emulation by all Muslims? Before you attack someone as learned as Maria, perhaps you must take your own advice and learn a little bit of Islam via the Qu’ran, the Hadiths and The Sira?
I will start you on a few facts about Islam just to get you started. You may do your own research further and try to refute my points.
1. The Qu’ran is arranged by chapter, not chronologically
2. It can be divided into two sections: The verses composed in Mecca which are full of love, beauty and peace (the things you will like) and the verses composed in Medina which are full of hatred, violence, beheading, decapitations, compulsion etc which you will not like
3. Because of point 1, verses composed in Medina and Mecca can be found in the same chapter. Thus a violent verse can be immediately preceded or followed by a peaceful one. This is very confusing to non-muslims
4. Then there is the law of abrogation by which essentially says that in case of an apparent contradiction between two verses, the verse that comes later is stronger. However, both verses, being the word of Allah are valid. If this sounds illogical to you, then welcome to Islamic logic 101. The law of abrogation is the single most important law in the Qu’ran that all non-muslims must be aware of.
5. Since love and peace are valid as is hate and war, Muslims have the freedom to go whichever way they want with regard to the Kaffir. They may love him or hate him, feed him or kill him. Both are valid being the word of Allah. In general, when muslims are on the defensive, they quote the love and peace verses. When they are on the offensive, they do what the Medina verses ask them to do. However jihadi muslims like ISIS, taliban or Boko Haram are strong muslims. While love and peace muslims are weak Muslims.
This, my friend, is Islam in a nutshell. Even though Maria has not done an in-depth study of the Quran, she has it right. She understands intuitively what I understand after a lot of study and analysis and talking to Islamic scholars
Hopefully, you will not reflect on your self righteous advice to Maria asking her to “stop dividing us on the basis of religion”
Attempts must be made to divide that which deserves to be divided.
you have wrong idea about indian culture india is already sexual ly libberated. west having so many he lth problems they cant even enjoy proper sex.1in6guy have prostaye problems in west liver csorisis alzhimer infertility is rampant. no wonder pedofiles aussies goes to thi and india for surrogacy. having multiple partners doing sex with stranger doing sex with Animals is ot sexually libberrating but it’s dangerous for your own reproductive organ. if person dont treat std on time that perspn woman uthera and mans prostate and penis will get infllammed and youre immunity system will constant attack youre organ hence permanent d as mage and dead cell means impotency. search chronic prostate problem due to std and it is very dangerous even anti biotic doesn’t works well. indian practiced head lrhy sexual l relationships. west is practicing unhealthy thing. white man soo addicted too porn he cant get up to normal woman at all.
temples youre talking about khajurao and it was build by perverted king. iits doesn’t means that time ppl used to do that hinduism never pramotes bastality and multiple partners cause its unhealthy practice. 1.2m usa citizens have aids hiv. indians 2.5m but if you do the math you will know who is in shit hole.
y ou can search pedofiles in vatican to vatican is full of pedofiles and homosexual.
search bastality brothel in germany and dutc. media reports nothing they all do is policing thirld world country sp there citizens will think inferrior about themself and they will start thinking west is better. so 3rd w orld citizens will obey to white master. which is done by medi. media =rothschilds order
y ou can search pedofiles in vatican to vatican is full of pedofiles and homosexual.
search bastality brothel in germany and dutch. media reports nothing they all do is policing thirld world country sp there citizens will think inferrior about themself and they will start thinking west is better. so 3rd w orld citizens will obey to white master. which is done by medi. media =rothschilds order
http://m.youtube.com/watch?vIAKiCdD0hkEE
you’re speaking about eve teasing. in http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rU_g-TX3mOonew york cat callinrU_g-TX3mOo
cat calling is very normal in usa.same west complain about indian staring eve teasing lol. everyone knows rohatak sister where false. india is more safer place than America for woma. media cant mind controls indian anymore .
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IAKiCdD0hkE
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rU_g-TX3mOo
you’re really racist towards african. whole system in white country is against black. if white caught with drugs or prostitute white police is not harsh against them but if same thing black do they will be in prison. in usa kids are raping handicapped classmat. when delhi rape case happened same time gangrape rape happened in usa but media didn’t reporte. forget about rape in usa.pporn industry iitself is abusive towards woman. woman are forced to do anal sex spanking huged dildo in the ass. mostly thos actress take painkillers. there is child porn and bastality is also rampan. you should search how east european woman traficked and dragged in to porn, sex slavery, prosstitution. which is all done by youre master you worshipp. they shout about human trafficking in india but never enclose that they are traficked for kidneys liver testicle etc for white man who fucked up with bad lifestyl. such thing media never exposed. media knows only blame game. and media cant controls Indians any more.
even suppose in India 60% rape cases are not reported according UN 60%rape are not reported in US too. media dont have rights too stamp any country as rapist country cause whole world knows vatican is capital of homosexual pedofiles they should report this firs. American troops raped more kids and woman more than any other country and jihadist group.
no one need to learn about hadit, bible. person need higher consciousness. and blog like ajit vadakayil
isis taliban is not muslim organistation dont get fooled. they are funded by nato usa to terrorise nation. use simple logic on this earth only usa china russia some nato countries manufacture weapon. its not easy to make ak47 and even pistol itself . usa nato have expansnist plan aka new do ld order. yes religion was used as tool to control troops in past. but now its used to divide people and make ppl scare etc.
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I really appreciate ur view and concern perspective about other religion,u put ur point v logically and humbly,hope people develop some compassion for the the better future.
Such a irrational sl.. just wait and watch, lol. ..We r cming
I really appreciate ur view and concern perspective about other religion,u put ur point v logically and humbly,hope people develop some compassion for the the better future.
Note:sorry by mistake I posted my this comment below on wrong person’s reply AGNI. .who is such a irrational communal person. .lol
‘@Shawat, wherever the dogma religions have gone they have destroyed the local culture that existed prior to their arrival. The extermination is complete and diversity is completely eliminated. History has shown this over and over and over again
“if Hindu culture would have prevailed and Christianity and Islam had never appeared on the scene, the world would be a better place”
LOL.
You actually believe that nonsense. Caste system, Female foeticide, Sati, to name just a fraction of issues, are all hindu ‘gifts’ handed to this world.
Ah, a whole lot of deluded stupid idiots here, especially the author of this ‘blog.’
Be warned, one thing is for certain, most of you have booked one way tickets to a really fiery place. I can imagine you cursed people, entering the said place, all struggling and screaming, begging for one more chance. That is indeed a nice vision.
To hell with all of you.
Female infanticide was never a part of vedic culture… caste system practiced in Vedic times is different, not the present system… more details in my blog… http://themonkwhogothismurari.blogspot.com/2014/11/analysis-and-classifications-of-indians.html
Oh Mr pshr we know who you are..hahahaha.. you are the ones who live in a really fiery place (your green-colored-1 room house – where you see your abbajaan mounting your ammijaan in the living room in front of you and your 40 brothers and sisters. You are the ones who are cursed – both in life and in the after-life. from the day you are born to the day you die you struggle and beg and steal and rob and rape and try to convert people to your F’d up cult. you are living clumps of s h i t. shame on your entire existence and your death.
It is really good that there are few people on the Earth which have brain in them who don’t just easily believe what is said to them.
As an Indian, we were really very ashamed of the inhumane nature.
But with the propaganda of a few cases and stereotyping this image of India, it really hurts.
Why you traitorous Teutonic turncoat, do you not see that backward Indic culture with it’s patriarchal Fascist “family values” is the reason for all the rapage? What was the point of the British trying to civilise these barbaric baboons for so many centuries if a parsimonious Prussian pontificator like comes along and tries to tell these mulligatawnean meshuggenehs that their ignorant ways have always been the most idyllic? Areh, tooom kaisun auwrat hai?! Hüten Sie sich vor der hier gedeihenden Ironie, ich Ihnen über die Ironie bemerkte, auch vom Paradoxon gesagt sein!!
Let me give one more perspective – the underage boy who was initially promoted as the most cruel rapist was actually not most cruel. It was just promoted by media. Later on, one of India’s leading newspaper published that he was not most cruel. But this time they published in a very very small way so that no one could see. Only a few of us noticed.
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This comment has got to be sarcasm!
Husain,
The article is absolutely correct in doing so. Because the attack was never on India, but on Hindus. Nobody never not wanted India, It’s the Hindus they can not stand. Neither Hinduism nor Hindus are perfect, but historically they have evolved and prevailed. Hinduism and other eastern school of thought have influenced rebellions that had weakened power of institutions of the dogmatic faiths in past centuries. During the same period Hindus undertook many social reforms and evolved. Europian post-modernism and western values, having successfully defeated and defaced conservatism of dogmatic faiths, is appearantly interested in eastern values. In my opinion auther is rightly pointing out absurdities of linking Hindu culture with the so called “rape culture” undettered by the facts. Don’t you think Hindus also deserve right to defend against malice?
Mr. Ustad, can u kindly enlighten us on how exactly the Anglo Indian community come into existence?
Your statement that the British faced ‘severe amount of rape’ in India is not just frivolous but incredibly ridiculous to the utter extreme!!
What exactly do you mean Mr. Anjum when u say ‘wait n watch, lol, we’re coming’?
U have been coming since 800 yrs from 1000AD.
Now we’re well prepared n on the guard, just ‘come’ n see…
If you desire I can leave my address n number too for ur convenience….
The family system is still strong ?? xD wow live in your own little bubble ..dont you
Did someone really try to claim that Anglo-Indians are the product of rape? Sorry, marriage isn’t rape. And while the rapes keep piling up and getting more violent in India with children hanging from trees, and Hindufuses and Mudslimes keep making more excuses and lies about their own savagery.
Far over 90% of rape isn’t reported in India. I’ve never once seen a reliable estimate of 60%. 60% are probably raped by the police after reporting the first rape, then 50% more raped by the witch doctor.
‘@J.K.Rowling,
may i ask you what you know about India and what your sources of information are? i live in India since 35 years, travelled non stop for 7 years and know the west also intimately, during my first 29 years.
Yes, attempts are on to weaken the family system, all this focus on rape in India is one aspect of it. But compared to the west it is still strong, even very strong.
Please read some other articles on this blog and you may realise that Indians, especially Hindus have a different mindset than westerners. less hypocritical, as they don’t have to believe something as true that is hard to believe.
You’re so disingenuous it’s unbelievable. Funny how literally every single woman who ever goes to India has severe problems, but you just happen to have found some paradise that NOBODY else finds. Maybe you’re just a liar? Are you jewish?
Ustad, please see this study done by The Hindu.
http://www.thehindu.com/data/the-many-shades-of-rape-cases-in-delhi/article6261042.ece
it will surprise that instead of under reporting, there is heavy over-reporting in India. Apart from fake case, cases are registered as rape when a marriage promise is broken. Try to do this in the west. The police will laugh at you.
further if a girl under 18 elopes, a rape case is slpped on her boyfriend.
in the west, in most cuntries, the age of consent is 14 – so again many many more cases for the west, if it would follow the Indian procedure.
it seems you don’t live in India. Most foreigners i meet here, love the country.
a young German told me a few days ago, that she told her family and friends back home that they need not worry about her.
My God, you’re a liar. Just stop. There were entire gangs operating with the only intention of kidnapping Japanese tourists for rape, doctors and police have been raping tourists, school teachers and tutors from abroad routinely report being harassed, followed and groped. I’ve been to India multiple times and I have never met one single female tourist who hadn’t been groped by men.
Stop your shilling. One German girl who wanted to make her parents feel good means nothing.
If India is as bad as you say it is, then why do so many people from other countries visit it?
The image that you portray of India is nauseating and so very far from the truth.
It is clear that you have a heavy prejudice against India, Indians and its culture. No amount of evidence will convince you to change your views and accept the reality. You see the world with your jaundiced eyes and everything appears yellow.
You are sick! You need help!! Please go and see a good psychiatrist at the earliest.
Maria, let me congratulate you for having the guts to write this blog! Your analysis is correct and with so many people, nexuses and foolhardy media projecting such a disgusting picture of India, it requires courage to stand up to what you believe to be the truth.
India is awakening. Nobody can stop it from reaching the pinnacle of every human endeavor that is inspired from truth, justice, freedom, compassion, science and spirituality.
We are working to solve problems that hold us back on all fronts. It is but a matter of time!
In the meanwhile, India will face all the insinuations against its people, culture and history resolutely and will emerge victorious, very much like a phoenix rising from the ashes.
I thank you once again for posting your valuable thoughts. I pray that it goes mainstream and people see nothing but the pure truth. Vielen Dank!
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Finally some one has shown guts to express the truth. Now days it really unfortunate that most of the media is commercialized and in-fact they might be aware of the truth but never brings it in front of masses and only publicizes the thing which are commercially benefited..Hinduism is the only religion which accepts the people with religious differences.
“If India is as bad as you say it is, then why do so many people from other countries visit it? ”
They don’t. When you consider the size of India, you receive an insignificant amount of tourism. Nobody wants to go to India. Only weird hippies who can’t afford to go anywhere else.
“We are working to solve problems that hold us back on all fronts. It is but a matter of time!”
You’re working toward fixing problems that all of the civilized world solved centuries ago. You’ll never catch up.
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Hi Maria, I appreciate your view point. what media is trying is to paint a negative image about India or Indian culture/society just basing on few incidents or people. Good and bad is there is every society. I really appreciate you taking time to express your views.
‘@mariawirthblog Your blog is full of bigoted views and broad generalizations of the world as a whole! You manage to demonize other people’s beliefs and make broad uneducated comments on cultures and religions that you obviously no nothing about! You do not care about other people’s values or beliefs which is funny because this is the very thing that you accuse others of doing. You bash others religion while you glorify your own in the process, you are a HYPOCRITE! you are divisive, judgemental, And unaccepting of other people and their beliefs yet these are the very things you are mad about in your story above. Open your eyes and your heart after all Hindus are suppose to be tolerant and accepting of others right? If this is the case then you are far from a true Hindu my friend!
‘@ Matt, maybe you could quote one of my many “bigoted views”?
Excellent article providing a true perspective on India and Hinduism! Thank you so much for this!
‘@ Shaswath
I am surprised to read your comment ” There has always been a section of the Hindus who feel that India should a Hindu nation”.
You forget a fact that India is a Hindu nation. I can make this statement because I understand what Hindu means. Is “Hindu” really a religion or someone coined that term because he really didn’t understand a religion that was followed by people living on the south-east of river “SINDHU”. The latter is true, it is a “Sanatan Dharma” followed by people residing in areas below Sindhu river. But all the invaders who came down from Khyber pass in search of a wealthy, rich heritage and prosperous nation i.e. Greeks, Persians, Turks, Mongols, etc. named it as such. Because their language skills or phonetic skills were not as evolved as compared to “SANSKRI”, some couldn’t pronounce “S” from Sindhu correctly and so the people and the region was continuously referred as “Indhu” and eventually that became “Hindu”.
Time should be spent in understanding why there were no attempts made to gain knowledge of “Sanatan Dharma”. And the answer is lack of understanding of scholarly Sanskrit scriptures and not having enough patience to learn it. So, a continues attempt was made to obliterate all the scripts and culture that one cannot understand. Britishers did it to the core. They cooked up some “Aryan” theory about invasion of India by some fair skinned, blue eyed immigrants from North Eurasia (part of Russian and East Europe) to really help people of India to understand that your country was never owned by you but ruled by outsiders, you accepted “Aryans” why don’t you accept us we bring prosperity, development to your country, so take it and in return give us your soul.
Maria,
Great writing. I really appreciate the research you did to write this article. Thanks for bringing all the good things to us to read.
The western world had constantly misunderstood India. I am not surprised by that because 50% of American’s don’t know anything outside America. Europeans do (but they choose to ignore) because there are so many neighbouring countries that they understand what neighbours mean and what cultural differences are. But all that has happened because of the history lessons the western world is getting through schooling. One of that example is in USA, there was a continuous effort by India association to make the schooling system take a serious note of the wrong Indian history they have introduced in the “World history” textbook or chapters. Believe it or not but there are only three to four topics in the America Textbooks about Indian history, 1) Gandi, 2) Dowry system 3) Caste system in India and 4) Poverty in a developed nation. There is nothing other than that. So, it is clearly a political agenda or a careless attitude towards a 5000 years plus civilisation, culture, religious practices and knowledge. But, no matter how systematic approach was followed to destroy a religion or nation, it prevailed and grew stronger. I truly consider India’s population is not a curse but a silver lining in achieving this.
Thank you Maria. Appreciate your views.
indians should respect their values and then expect others to do so. The answer of this ridicule is within us. India is culturally rich and westerners always have tried to break India to gain India. History is proof. United v stand devided v fall. Indians need to stand for their culture and v wont have to complain y India is targeted
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Anjum Khan “Such a irrational sl.. just wait and watch, lol. ..We r cming”
This is the root of all trouble .. co existence is not on the agenda it is we are going to remove you , our way or the highway ….. Sorry India has held strong against the ravaging mughals.. try but you will be disappointed and will end up losing the only home on earth where the mullah dont rule your lives , but then perhaps thats what you crave for ???
you kept your eyes open but kept your mind closed. you do not know India.
It is not going to be Hindus are Tolerant any more, Now on it is ,Hindus with full equal respect, minimum. lot of lessons will be learned
It is the poison that is fed in to us form controlled Education system and pre-prepared History. we need to bring out the truth, teach No acceptance of Tolerance, Only Mutual Respect. do not allow others to ridicule Hinduism to propagate theirs.Teach at Home Hinduism correctly to make kids proud of their background and the great Country.
Great read.. Thanks Maria
Respect is earned. Some dirty country with beggars everywhere, rapists abounding, and corruption like nobody has ever seen doesn’t deserve respect. Just “demanding” it is useless. I “demand” you think I’m the richest person in the world, even though I’m not. South Asians, both Indos and Pakis, have done nothing to deserve respect for their character. You’re cheaters and liars.
“westerners always have tried to break India to gain India”
Nobody wants India. Why do you arrogant small people think that everyone is so obsessed with you? MILLIONS of you move to our countries. Nobody moves to your country. Don’t you understand that? Nobody wants to be around you. You are forcing your presence on the world and saying “they want our country!” It’s the exact opposite. The direction of migration is clear. You’re the losers coming to leach off an infrastructure that your people are unable to create.
The British just wanted raw resources, but not your people and “culture”.
Good insight Maria. Appreciate it ?.
Rapes in the US GROSSLY UNDER REPORTED: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/21/rape-study-report-america-us_n_4310765.html?ir=India
Rapes under reported in Europe:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/unreported-rapes-the-silent-shame-7561636.html
see also:
http://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra-2014-vaw-survey-main-results_en.pdf
Muslim rapes under reported:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/346059
see also
http://www.iris.org.il/blog/archives/757-Pan-European-Arab-Muslim-Gang-Rape-Epidemic.html
Are you also sad that the BBC documentary revealed it and did not ask the parents permission either?
Hats off your knowledge on Indian history Ustad. I strongly recommend to read Indian history throughly first, then dare to talk about!
Mahmud succeeded his father, a warlord who had carved out an empire in central Asia and had established his capital at Ghazni, south of Kabul, in 998 AD at the age of 27. He launched aggressive expansionist campaigns, and invaded India no less than 17 times between 1000 and 1025 AD. 17 is 17 because many of his “invasions” were hit-and-run attacks, albeit at a grand scale.
Mahmud Ghazni always raided and went away with the loot before the local kings could retaliate unitedly against him. Mahmud did not win in all the 17 raids. Some of the indian kings were successful in defending their kingdoms. Mehmud attacked Somnath temple in Gujrat and looted and idol of God Shiva was desecrated.
British came to India in the name ‘trade’ and later gallowed the entire India for her enormous natural resource and wealth. If you read the history you will understand this.
Today, Indians are away from their home in other country for their mental and physical skill not for slavery work. Remember, if India (for discussion sake) recalls all Indians in US, the NASA, the computer sector (Intel, Microsoft, Apple, etc.), Medical sector will collapse in no time. Same will be the story of other countries (including few Gulf countries).
Wherever Indians are, there peace remains. Indians do not like to fight. It does not mean they do not know how to defend. (e.g., several Indo-pak war, Indo-china war, etc.). Pl. consider our goodness as goodness not as incapableness. You can see our capabilities in our Satellite Technology, Nuclear Technology, IT sector, Defense, etc. etc.
We are like fire. You can make use of us for your development, but if you try to touch, you will be burnt off completely without any trace remaining.
Let’s live together, develop together.
Let Allah give you more knowledge on peace!
1.7 out of 100,000 women are raped in India. You are 6 times as likely to be raped in Germany as in India. You are 15 times as likely to be raped in USA as in India. You are 100 times as likely to be raped in UK as in India!
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate
http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Statistics2.php
One thing to remember is that much of the rape in the west, actually the majority in many places, is committed by brown people such as IndoPaki savages. You rape more. There is nothing to argue about. You know it as well as anyone, but you want to use the Huffington Post, essentially a tabloid newspaper, to justify your rape habits.
You use the word “civilization” very loosely. A large pile of garbage and feces where human-looking rapists roam around spitting paan and grabbing women in busses isn’t really a “civilization.” It’s more of a garbage dump filled with disease that rats and cockroaches have survived in.
Is anyone willing to bet with me whether or not Maria Wirth is actually a jew who either denies it or has changed her name? The level of dishonesty and rape apologetics can only be done by jews or 3rd world savages.
“if India (for discussion sake) recalls all Indians in US, the NASA, the computer sector (Intel, Microsoft, Apple, etc.), Medical sector will collapse in no time. ”
LOL you realize that very competent western employees are being fired and forced to train Indians right? You’re not needed because of skill. You’re needed because you’re cheap labor. And Indian medical doctors, more like witch doctors, are many times more likely to kill patients, be convicted of fraud, and medical malpractice ie your doctors are 3rd rate thieves and murderers.
‘@Ustad, why so much hate for India? btw, i am not a Jew, grew up in Catholic family. If i was a Jew i wouldn’t know Christianity so well, but what else would be the difference? aren’t we all human being?
please see whether you can get over your brainwashing. Neither Muslims nor Christians have any proof that they (who?) REALLY will go to paradise. before an aunt died, though she went for all her 87 years to mass, she was worried whether there is life after death. And it she was right – she should be worried whether what she was told as a kid is really the truth.
Truth is not opposite of lie (our story is true) but what is the basis of this universe
‘@Ustad:
“You?re not needed because of skill. You?re needed because you?re cheap labor”
Are you in mental balance or not? Or just want to counter anything without any reason? It is absolutely gibberish, There so many poor countries in this World which are ready to supply cheap labour, but so called developed nations are not ready to accept them but want only Indians and Chinese mostly. It is not just cheap but also inherent skill.
“Indian medical doctors, more like witch doctors, are many times more likely to kill patients”
If that is the case,why all Indian doctors, scientists, engineers and other were not sent out? Why these countries still lingering on their service?
“your doctors are 3rd rate thieves and murderers”
What authentic data you have to claim this? You are shame to Islam and fellow Muslims.
A Doctor is a doctor whether he is an Indian, Pakistani, American or African. I don’t think they see nationality of a patient before giving treatment. Only perverted few people like you would view it in this angle. Would you dare to disclose your nationality Ustad? I can broadcast 100s /1000s of worst things of your nation.
I strongly believe that one day when your life is at stake due medical reasons, only some Indian doctor will come and save you. Let your Allah pave way for this soon, Amen!
Your article has so much bullshit written all over it…. its just too cumbersome to even respond…. its like u have love for Hinduism and trying to defend the same….pretty lame!!
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If you are a woman, you are 6 times as likely to be raped in Germany as in India. In the USA, you are 15 times as likely to be raped.
One thing is that India underreports rape FAR more than other countries. Another is that you likely won’t be raped in Germany by a German, or in the USA by an American.
Indians, Pakis and all manner of other brown criminals are invading by the millions in our countries and committing crimes far more frequently.
Using the name of a country is meaningless.
Thanks for the article. America with 10 times as many policemen and lawyers per capita as India, has 13 times as many rapes as India. But many Indians are too silly to think, and so they swallow the propaganda by the Pakistanis and fundamentalists. The comments below this straightforward, factual article illustrate this quite well. India does seem to have a severe air and water pollution problem because, despite eating rice, so many Indians appear to have low IQs, judging by the comments from the Shashwats and Hussains here.
Maria , Excellent article . I commend you ,and encourage you to publish it somewhere ,where it can gain a wider viewership . You have an understanding of Hinduism and Indian culture that exceeds that of an average Indian.
Your point about people being obsessed with India is proven by the fact that some people ,possibly Islamist (judging by the username) are repeatedly writing bigoted , hateful and rather verbose comments (like labeling you as a Jew ,when there is no evidence of it, the person also appears obsessed and bigoted about Jews ) . And simultaneously claim that they have no interest in India .
I ll share this article of twitter and fb .
yes please share the article. it is difficult to get into mainstream, i tried Pioneer twice and the Hindu once. Pioneer wanted to take one, however make it into a staff report and bring in comments from ‘another’ community, too…. i declined.
Please, share the rape apology.
India does have an extremely low average IQ. But that isn’t the point. The point is that you’re comparing EXTREMELY unreliable data ie from Indian gov which is one of the most corrupt in the world, and comparing data of ONE ETHNIC group to that of multi ethnic countries. The reason why the west seems (but still doesn’t actually ) to have more rape is…. Guess……. BROWN IMMIGRANTS. Turks, Pakis, Hindus, etc. and the most rapes in America come from blacks.Yes the same blacks who raped you in Uganda.
I disagree…. for the simple reason that most of my Indian (non-Indian) friends and family settled in Germany, have generally felt far safer in Germany as opposed gender based violence they have experience in public spaces during travel etc.
And as Ustad, already mentioned rape in India IS FAR more under-reported in India, for the simple reason that there is massive stigma associated with being victim to sexual violence. I have numerous friends, families and acquaintances who in fact have kept it under wraps for fear of stigma associated with, to preserve family honor, etc….
Yes it is true when u compare the population per capita, the statistics could state less… but thats like comparing a nuclear family where the husband is sexually abusive and a joint family of say 10 family members with children, wherein it turns out one of the uncle is a sexual abusive to the kids, the damage done within those 2 families will still amount to more less the same.
‘@ Jerry:
” I have numerous friends, families and acquaintances who in fact have kept it under wraps for fear of stigma associated with, to preserve family honor, etc?.”
Neither you nor Ustad are residents of India (by birth or by citizenship), hence, talking based on few incidents with your friends and their family experience is invalid. The sample data you Jerry, taken from some of your known Indians does not represent crime data of India, may please be understood. Secondly in a mass population country like India, there are so many illegal happening go unreported (such unreported crimes are happening every part of this world). If public, on their own do not come forward to report, what Govt and police will do?
Further, you mentioned fear of stigma by rape victims or their relatives. Might be true, a decade ago, but now, as far as rape crime alone considered it is not correct. victims are coming forward and reporting.
Look at the graph by UN and published in Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#/media/File:Rape_rate_per_100,000_-_country_comparison_-_United_Nations_2012.png
Another website http://www.wonderlist.com reports under the title: ‘Countries With highest Rape Cases’
The countries with highest rape cases are Lesotho (91.6 per 100000), Trinidad & Tobago (58.4 per 100000), Sweden (53.2 per 100000), Korea (33.7 per 100000), New Zealand (30.9 per 100000), United States of America (28.6 per 100000), Belgium (26.3 per 100000), Zimbabwe (25.6 per 100000) and United Kingdom (23.2 per 100000).
It does not justify the rape cases in India. Indian Govt is sincerely taking steps to curtail and wash out such cases in future. If any such happens, the criminals must be punished suitably.
If rape cases are alarming level in India, how it would be increasing people in tourism here year by year?
Jerry, Ustad is mentally unstable, coward, disguised man from somewhere in Africa. Pl. don’t get influenced by his dirty comments (mostly against India).
Trinidad and Tobago is high on the rape list? Hmmm, I wonder if it’s because the population is divided between Africans and INDIANS. lol Sweden? HMMM, let me see, is it Swedish committing all the rape or is it TURKS and SOMALIS who have migrated. USA? Again, it’s not the white Americans. It’s blacks who are very highly over represented in the rape, and all other violent crime categories.
India keeps really bad records. Indians are more corrupt. And Indian government officials have openly sided with rapists numerous times, not the least of the recent Yadav from UP who said “boys will be boys” when talking about gang rape and murder of women. You guys are a joke.
http://www.more.com/news/india-rape-capital-world
Is India the Rape Capital of the World?
We’re horrified by news reports of rape in India and feel lucky we don’t live there. But the country with the highest rate of sexual assault isn’t India?it’s us
by Sally Kohn
“And yet India only ranks third for the number of rapes reported each year. What country ranks first? The United States. In India, a country of over 1.2 billion people, 24,206 rapes were reported in 2011. The same year in the United States, a nation of 300 million, 83,425 rapes were reported. In the United States, every 6.2 minutes a woman is raped.
Even if sexual assault in India is dramatically underreported, which most likely it is, the statistical difference is still striking?as is our uniquely American inclination to dismiss such monstrous human rights violations as problems that other countries face. Not only is violence against women a global pandemic but the United States may be leading the pack.
Oh, but you think, women who’ve been sexually assaulted in America are better treated. Rape victims in India, especially in rural villages, are often subject to shaming and considered unfit for marriage. But meanwhile, in Steubenville, Ohio, two young men who were convicted of raping a 16-year-old girl too intoxicated to consent continue to be defended as upstanding football players while the reputation of the young woman is smeared. When the verdict was announced, a CNN reporter came close to portraying the rapists as passive victims: ?These two young men that had such promising futures, star football players, very good students, literally watched as they believed their lives fell apart.? Other media coverage seemed equally sympathetic to the perpetrators”
You sure talk a lot of nonsense. How was this an attack in Hindu’s?! Are we not supposed to be secular state?!
Are u saying that the ongoing regressive mentality that is echoed by the rapist his defence lawyers and other prominent political figures and Indian society at large are only by Hindu’s ?!
Rape culture is prevalent throughout indian society irrespective of religion. There is nothing to defend here. When the documentary only stated factual information most of which was covered in the Indian medial already, except for the interview in prison.
Your Hindu hatred is oozing from your comments.
Ustad, your “civilisation” got over in the 20th century when you not only fought among yourselves and killed millions of young irreplaceable white men but stopped reproducing. There is no point in wasting your breath screaming on this blog. You should start figuring out where you will run when the caliphate arrives in your town. Cordially.
“Sita was raped by Ravan. She was then shunned by her community AND husband because she got raped. Really Maria, you are going to argue that Hinduism isn?t part of the problem?”
A very late reply, but I just have to correct the above misconception of M. Anand:
Sita was NOT raped by Ravana. Ravana kidnapped Sita. After that she had to prove Her chastity to Rama by entering a fire, which was build by Laksmana on the order of Rama. Coming out of it unscathed, She proved that Her chastity was intact; ergo, She was not touched by Ravana. Agnideva and Vayudeva also confirmed She was pure. Because some of the inhabitants of Ayodhya began to erroneously criticize that She was not pure yet Rama still took Her back, Sita was exiled by Lord Rama in order to maintain dharma, even though He knew She was pure. Sita did not object and accepted this plight without hesitation, because She is also showing the common people how to act according to dharma. She proved Her chastity multiple times without question, so there cannot be any rape.
Also, another thing that people like to read into this husband/wife situation is that they consider that women were being oppressed and kept like abused, harshly treated slaves who were forced to act as subordinate to their husbands. This is a gross misconception Actually, both parties agreed to this arrangement according to prescription of dharma, and in this way society would go on nicely. You have to remember that all of this happened in a time when society was of an impeccably high standard. There is absolutely no comparison to the degraded standard of living of people in this current age we’re living in and think of as the height of culture. The current society is actually the opposite of that. Simply having been alone with Ravana in his palace was enough in those times to question a wife’s chastity. That is not a flaw on account of dharma, that is in fact a very good and beautiful standard. Lord Rama came to show everyone the perfection of dharma. Sita showed this as well. Every pastime of Sita-Rama is there to show the height of dharma; they are all lessons that teach us how to live properly. There is no flaw. The flaw is in us that we nowadays are being indoctrinated by weak and flawed so-called modern thinking and are taking that as the proper standard. Ravana was a big, big demon, but in today’s world, he would have been almost like a saint.
If the clue you are getting out of these pastmes of Sita-Rama is that rape is something Hinduism endorses and that this shunning is something bad in the case of Rama-lila, then clearly it is not ‘Hinduism’ which is a part of the problem, but the problem is really within yourself, when you have an indoctrinated western mind ready to jump at the chance to lay blame on religion (it’s just so trendy and easy), even though lacking any kind of understanding about those kind of transcendental subject matters, nor having bothered to study them deeply. The topics of Ramayana and other Vedic literatures are an immensely deep treasure, but unfortunately, nowadays, even most Indians are too lazy to study them thoroughly, often claiming they’re too confusing or too complex (without even trying to understand), and so they turn to make shallow judgment calls on these scriptures based on mere hearsay, turn to other, ‘cheap’ religions or become outright atheists.
It is very clear that there is an agenda at work here with all these Indian (gang) rape reports that the news media keep unleashing, and sadly enough it’s working. The masses are taking this in without question. There already has been a riled up crowd decapitating a man accused of rape, who later on turned out to be innocent. Good old divide and conquer back in action. Britain during the time of Ghandi instigated the violent muslim-hindu riots that utlimately paved the way for Pakistan and Bangladesh in a final futile effort to maintain control over India. This evil-minded media indoctrination will hammer into the collective consciousness that Indians are rapists and that their “backward culture” is to blame. Another attempt to bludgeon India into submission.The Indian rape indoctrination of world-wide western-minded media began shortly before the election of Narendra Modi. Cooincidence? Not likely.
Thanks Maria for a well written and sensible post .
Dear Maria ,I think you are like my mother,It’s a very true story but we Indians are beaten by wrong impacts of media and western culture ,it is very hard for Indians(hindus) to realize our real hindu culture and to understand our ancient and most scientific books like vedas and Bhagvadgita etc,because there is no any tool to save this but still when people like you and me live on this earth and realize it’s value and spread it and stand for it sanatan dharm will be safe.I am thankful to you for such a good thing for Hinduism i.e our vedic culture.
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Índia need femenism
How immature you are Ms. Karol! Although we welcome equal justice for both gender, how this will solve the problem? If this would solve the problem then, there would have not been such incidents during Indira Gandhi Period. No such incidents would have recorded during Margret Thatcher period in England? Realty is different and theoretical approach is different. Equality does not mean justice Madam. Read between sentence.
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Fantastic article! I noticed a while ago the media would constantly portray India negatively on rape cases and when I searched up the statistics on the countries with the highest number of rape incidences, USA was way higher then India, India was pretty low and didn’t even make the top ten actually, so why is the media constantly picking on India? I don’t know why but it’s probably the same reason the media portrays anyone Black as criminals or violent, Africa as poor and dirty and Mexicans as illegals. I personally don’t believe everything I see or read and there’s definitely a racist undertone behind the rape reports on India. I’ve traveled to India and it was a perfectly fine country like any other. The media is inaccurate and I find it funny whenever someone blindly believes everything they hear.
They already have feminism.
unfortunately there are still many who believe media reports blindly…
Mr. Taylor you reflected India very well! Kudos! It is mere vested interest by Indian Media, as most of the media in India are owned by foreigners. Reason you know, I believe, as to why they project India like this. We need more people like you to propaganda about India high in your respective countries to counter this media terrorism against India. Will you pal?
If the world goinh to call hindus rapers so be it that way but 1 day we well have time there is all wase god seeing us
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Very well written Mam. I seriously didn’t understood how and why a Country whose people were on roads for every rape case to fight against it..so to stop this horrific crime..to punish convicts..were labeled as rapists?
Moreover every case from here was presented in world as we have invested a new horrific thing while it is happening all over the world but instead of solving out own issues..people mocking India.
Very well said mam…
i have a incident to tell..
Today someone from USA replied to my comment by saying that “India is worst country of world and everyone hate Indian men and even wife’s of Indian men are ignoring them because 1000 of women are getting raped everyday”. I don’t know who told them this bullshit.
This is what people are getting about India, and their is only one to blame and that’s media.
I am a Hindu by birth and yet you seem know more about my religion than I do.
very well said mam..agree with you..
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God bless u…who are u…and where have u been….my perception always changes time to time about my religion, society and culture…and i am unable to decide which perception is correct….May be u r the person from whom i can learn a lot…Thank you so much..for sharing ur wisdom…
Um. Maybe because rape has been used as traditional, governing body sanctioned, non-taboo form of punishment for over one thousand years, and that it is STILL being used as such. Village leaders in the country side (over 90% of India) explicitly order Kumar, Veejay, Vinnie, Ranesh, and a few other villagers BY NAME to explicitly go over and administer gang rape as explicit, ordered punishment by an authority figure.
I know indians are going to say “lalalallalala gang rape in USA happens all the time.” But no, not as much as it does in India where it is a traditional form of punishment. RAPE IS AN APPLICATION OF LAW(common or otherwise) IN INDIA. That’s right. It’s lawful to rape in India.
Maria u are doing a great job
There are two types of people in this world- the kind, clever, good-hearted, rational thinking ones and the other, the muslims.
And i love the later…
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In the case of India, you want to treat exceptions as norms, and for US you take norms as exceptions. In India incidence rate is less than 1 per 100,000 whereas US has about 27 per 100,000. There were 84,767 cases of rape in US in 2010 as compared to 5,484 in India. Shows you are heavily biased for white skin.
You want go into reasons and rape in villages? First thing is every rape is equally evil whatever be the reason. Every is same! So don’t try to justify the shameful numbers by the argument of reasons behind rape. Yes, there are problems in India and we are working to solve them. Recently, one of the states has banned proclamation of punishments by village bodies. But our problems don’t justify your numbers. So, rather than pointing fingers towards us, look within yourself and try to make your country a better place for women. If you are a man I can understand your ignorance and if you are a woman, I simply don’t understand your psyche.
Best wishes from India to put your home in order. GOOD LUCK!
Read before you jump with a dagger on her throat.
very nicely written and one who understands the Hindu culture and India can only write this.
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Ma’am not, mom,
You are the real Mataji of India. No words sufficient to greet you .
I am from Mumbai.
The incidents of letching, cat calls in Mumbai’s crowded suburban railway stations have virtually disappeared now after the tremendous media coverage being given to r*pe incidents since 2013.
Believe me, such coverage has disciplined hoodlums a lot.
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Some people born in India but got brainwashed or got addicted to western culture try to defame India in every possible way. You are one of the few people who defend and try to safeguard our culcture. Lot of thanks ma.
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It’s highly shameful when you say that even rape is a propaganda of the west. There is a limit to crying out victimization. The fact of the matter is rape is a major problem of Indian society and you know very well the sigma associated with the crime here. Your conservatism is making you blind to the real problem. Why people were so outraged in 2013 is due to the brutality of the crime, and the fact that Delhi has always been an unsafe place for women.
If you think it is overrated then i dare you to go out for a stroll after sunset in the NCR.
Reducing rapes to only stats and comparing it to ‘civilized’ western countries is just brushing aside the main societal issue
Very sound, unbiased and pious logic expressed in a candid language.
Whosoever tries in whatsoever evil designs possible, the Truth has it’s own invincible way of bringing light to the humanity irrespective of any physical, metaphysical or political boundaries.
The history of humanity is abound with examples that the evil designs ultimately entertain its’ own devastating death.
Exactly ! Apart from Targetting Hindus the real reason for the disproportionate maligning is misandry I.e. hate for men. Please watch 2 human rights documentaries:
The red pill ( by Cassie Jaye)
Martyrs of marriage ( by Deepika Narayan bharadwaj)
A beautiful work calling a spade a spade. If one was to express an opinion close to what you?ve written, he?d be loathed by those immediately close to him in real life, treated as a monster and literally lynched by the so called women rights activists? mob. I want to share this work on FB but since you?ve named the victim in Delhi rape case, I cannot; the law forbids identifying a rape victim or publishing information by which she is identifiable. Consider editing-redacting her name so that people who want to disseminate this can do so without legal wrangles.
As far as I know, the parents of the girl released her name. I have to check., thought I gave only the first name?
Can’t do that under the laws in force in India. As far as I can remember, no one has ever published the real name of any rape victim in India.
The media coined the pseudonym ‘Nirbhaya’ (fearless) for the unfortunate Delhi victim.
True, but after she had died her parents wanted her real name to be mentioned. I only have it from the press.
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Very empathetic to the Dharmic cause Maria! Kudos!
it would have been great if you could have taken “authorative” sources to quote the rapes per 1000 in India versus each of US/UK/Germany/France etc. That number which I have seen in some other equally honest writeup is a big eyeopener! That number is so low for India as compared to US or UK or France or Germany or European countries that this entire racketeering to portray India as a rape country just falls flat and shows the agenda in even more great detail
VEry well written and thought provoking. Hopefully it will fall in the deaf ears and will wake up the sleeping souls in India and elsewhere of the propaganda.
A very absorbing article .I agree with its core message .But somehow i feel that situation could really be quite bad in India where for evrry ten reported cases of rape 50go unreported due to the stigma attached and the unusually high premium on virginity here.Sex is not treated as a natural instinct and is a taboo even amongst consenting adults.This leads to rape atempts pr
Hindu dharma is the oldest and richest of all religions. Above all Hinduism is a science how to live in a pure, harmonies, honest, respectable, spiritual and democratic way with mother nature and all its creatures. Other religion?s have proved their barbarism throughout the entire history and continues! India have been brutalized for more than 400 years and must now strictly defend their dharma, culture and borders for outsiders and other religion?s?just like China! There are no other options because we?re living in ?kaljug?. India needs a very strong and modern army with heavy weapons. India must eliminate poverty so that every Indian can live a respectable life?according to our Hindu dharma. India must not trust any western nation on their false democracy and Cristian values. If they were so honest then why England doesn?t return the ?kohinoor? to India? It?s all symbol politics! To western nations all what matters is money, sex and playing boss over the world. First they made India a beggars country and then playing for helping god!
Well written Ron, you have understood India and her cultural values very precisely.
Let me add a few more points: India was betrayed and brutalized more than 600 plus years (you mentioned 400 yrs.). Self-reliance is the only way to defend these fallacy Western menace.
What we need now is vigorous revamp educational system. The present education system of education is only helping to know as to how to make money. It does not cover the values of ethics, patriotism, moral, etc. Until certain level (say, 10th or 12th standard) we must allow the students to study freely, and on the higher studies they might be allowed to take-up what they want to study. Testing or examining here, would help them stronger. This is not a correct platform to discuss more on this subject.
Overall, we must stop dependency in any manner or in any area with other parts of World.
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Very analytical and informative article. It must be circulated widely.
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[?] In recent times, India has been portrayed as an unfriendly country for women. Violence against women is deplorable. Period. It would be helpful to do some homework to know which are the most unsafe places in the world for women. Here is rape statistics by country (based on UNODC data). Violence against women is a global problem. So when you visit India, take measures to be safe, just as you would elsewhere. But, in your interactions with others, drop any bias. If you need more on the topic, here?s a perspective by Maria Wirth ? Why this focus on rapes in India by world media? [?]
Maria Wirth?s bold article above is drowned by the huge din and dust of the Presstitutes of India.Sick tactics to malign the Hindu population has virtually succeeded.Rape is a deplorable act and people conveniently forget the India Partition time or the Islamic Invasion of India.Today is today and needs to to be checked with a keen eye like a buzzard and whoever is the culprit has to be identified and severely punished that should deter all others.
India has survived the physical assaults and this press attack will be overcome by truthful journalists.
It?ll be good if you gave a source instead of saying stuff which is unheard of by everyone except for you!
It is indeed illuminating. Thanks.
There?s a Sanskrit sloka?
Yatra naristu pujayante, ramyante Tatra devataah
Where women are worshipped, gods prefer to reside there. This is the value with which millions, yes millions and millions of us Hindus live our daily lives?yes, there are exceptions?but the exceptions are anti thesis
Very well written Madame, we need someone to portray India in a better way to the world. World is frighten about the way Indian economy is progressing under PM MODI. Today india is the third largest economy in the world so the world is annoyed at Indian growth. India has been dominated by the Muslims and Christian rulers for centuries they looted and plundered India yet India is rising again. It?s the Indian media?s and journalist for self above country let INDIA AND INDIANS down, rape in media is biased and hyped.
Your comment displays your ignorance because Being Hindu by Birth has no standing – your knowledge understanding. Action and practice are what makes a person have any credibility. Maria has proven her understanding – you have not.
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It is the true innermost study you made Maria ji
Painting India as a rapist country,
Hindu terror earlier
Making Modi Sarkar Responsible for everything
Frustration of Broken political parties
Desperate to come back to power.
Scot free Government is working hard on Development.
External forces have boosted the power of broken parties .constant false by intellectual brigade is dangerous weapon of Non nationalism.
Pray for Largest Democracy
I don?t know where you find that information, but it?s absolutely wrong. I?m from India and this has never been a way of punishment. Do some research before posting such baseless and stupid comment.
A Female only cn create a male . Like people use female feoticide . Female should use a male feticide . Then there won?t be any males one fine day??actually there is no solution until unless it comes from heart to protect females? And a transformation of a man to a human ,rapes can?t be stopped.unfotunately the raper is a son first , a brother , a husband , a dad. :. Ultimately both the man and a women should be protected . Timely marriages. Counselling . Consequences repercations . To be kept in mind. To protect women rights.
Very well written and facts mentioned. The truth is reflected by this article.
did you get to watch ?indias daughter? ?? its banned in India by the government as it shows some of our educated people from the legal profession and some of our ?traditionalists? speaking as if it was the girls fault being out at ten with her boyfriend!! and yes the guys who did it? not at all modern or so-called westernised youth but typical traditionalists?the kind who take offence over anything really. this offence game? pseudo-nationalism!!
one becomes wiser by looking at and acknowledging ones faults.
For your own sake fellow being, I really hope that is not your real name and the info you have given here is fake. Because the rather loud “majority”will find a way to screw you, your rationalism and label you anti-establishment. Or even easier: anti-national.
Have these idiots compared the figures countrywise n population percentage wise before making this appeal? This is contribution of Burlha Dutt to her motherland.
You have nailed it!
It’s sad that instead of emulating the right path, people are trying to destroy the very thread of good values.
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[?] In recent times, India has been portrayed as an unfriendly country for women. Violence against women is deplorable. Period. It would be helpful to do some homework to know which are the most unsafe places in the world for women. Here is rape statistics by country (based on UNODC data). Violence against women is a global problem. So when you visit India, take measures to be safe, just as you would elsewhere. But, in your interactions with others, drop any bias. If you need more on the topic, here?s a perspective by Maria Wirth ? Why this focus on rapes in India by world media? [?]
Recently there was too much of : ” ME TOO” and American media ( print or digital) is full of sexual slur on people at high places. That means they are all obsessed with sex.
It is just massive anti-India publicity to demonise Modi government. Easy to know who is funding it.. the usual culprits who don’t want India to be projected in good light given that she is now shining bright under Modi..
Of course
Thank you? Can I share it?
Can you really be such a Dumb to comment that Sita was raped by ravan?
Have you ever studied Ramayan? Or just farting from your mouth?
No religion is capable to cotrol crime as people find religion lesser acceptable divine. Law implementation is supportive of rich and influencial. Victims of sexual crimes are weak and poor. By chance in case victim belonged to rich and influencial, criminals will be arrested from Mars and punished heavily. In India the matter is very clear regarding sex and sexual crime. Law is not cheap and hence justice rare. As for as theory is concerned people should be in minimum number of strata. Sexual crime is power game.
In the case of the rape of an elderly nun in West Bengal in March 2015 ‘Hindu nationalists’ were immediately blamed with no evidence whatsoever. The perpetrators turned out to be Bangladeshi non-Hindus!
https://www.eurasiareview.com/09112017-christian-persecution-fears-unfounded-west-bengal-nun-rapist-identified-convicted-oped/
You wrote about it too…
https://mariawirthblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/christians-are-not-under-attack-in-india/
Thank you for repeatedly drawing attention to this issue. thanks to your antecedents you are less likely to be suspected of being biased.
It’s the truth, isn’t it?
I mentioned this in my book “Thank you India”. The article was written before that happened
Indian media is soldout ?.. rapes are least in India by percentage
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